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Do *you* pronounce the L in SOLDER ? (In the USA?)

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magic:
Logical consistency is not a concept which applies to English language in any of its dialects, or exists in America at all.

jpanhalt:

--- Quote from: mcovington on December 20, 2022, 04:02:31 am ---I know the origins and history of both; I'm just wondering whether some Americans are using the L pronunciation now.

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In the 2022 US election, over 150 million people legally voted, and not one pronounced the L in solder. 

pdenisowski:
As a native American English speaker, an electrical engineer, and someone who was once in a PhD linguistics program (specializing in phonology, no less): I pronounce "solder" as "sodder" and can't recall ever hearing any other Americans pronounce it with the "L".

America and the UK:  two great nations separated by a common language :)

pdenisowski:

--- Quote from: ebastler on December 20, 2022, 07:40:55 am ---In the common US pronounciation, is the 'L' suppressed in all forms of the word? E.g. would you say "soddering iron" too?

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Yes.  And even if it were spelled (spellt?) "Sottering iron" we would still pronounce it as "soddering iron" :)



[Americans tend to voice stops between vowels, so most Americans ... myself included ... pronounce "battery" as if were spelled "baddery"]

CatalinaWOW:
I think most folks are not introspective enough to be aware of subtle changes in pronunciation.  I have shifted my pronunciation slightly over time, and currently have a faint, barely detectable hint of the ell sound before the d.  Retaining the soft o.

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