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Do most big companies reverse-engineer competing products ?
NiHaoMike:
--- Quote from: Someone on August 14, 2022, 10:04:10 pm ---The businesses are very hidden about it, going to lengths so that the retail/sales chain can't figure out where/who the products were delivered to.
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I remember when Benson Leung ordered many USB-C cables and chargers to test them for spec compliance but then ran into issues with Amazon no longer wanting to sell to him. I guess Amazon was afraid of ending up with stock that nobody wants to buy anymore (because of the bad reviews) and doesn't care about selling stuff that's out of spec.
rstofer:
I worked for a rather large company and we weren't even allowed to have competitor's catalogs (even those given out at conferences or via distributors/retailers) nor any document that had a copyright. We couldn't even have ball caps of competing products nor could we go out to lunch with salesmen from different divisions lest their competitors think their tie-in was non-competitive.
Yes, it was nuts. Sometimes it goes like that.
coppercone2:
--- Quote from: rstofer on August 15, 2022, 05:33:51 am ---I worked for a rather large company and we weren't even allowed to have competitor's catalogs (even those given out at conferences or via distributors/retailers) nor any document that had a copyright. We couldn't even have ball caps of competing products nor could we go out to lunch with salesmen from different divisions lest their competitors think their tie-in was non-competitive.
Yes, it was nuts. Sometimes it goes like that.
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meanwhile after 5pm...
jmelson:
--- Quote from: MathWizard on August 14, 2022, 01:08:23 pm ---At companies like Intel/AMD/Nvidia/Samsung/etc, I know there's employee's that go back and forth between some companies, and corporate espionage, and probably some market rigging.
But do any of them have dedicated teams, that buy the latest chip or whatever, and then just reverse engineer it ? And are any of them open about it, like so your job title is reverse engineer ? I saw a movie about something like that once.
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I was in Dearborn, MI, headquarters of Ford Motor Co. In the parking lot, they had several small cars that had been stripped like a ghetto job. Hood, doors, etc. all off the body, drivetrain missing, wheels and suspension off. And, I'm pretty sure these were NOT Ford products. So, clearly they do. I make motion control products, and one of the larger makers ordered one servo amp off my web site. I can only guess why, but checking for infringements might be a good guess.
Jon
KE5FX:
The conventional wisdom is that every new Corvette generation starts with the purchase of one of the current-gen 911s. GM takes it apart for study and competitive analysis, and doesn't make a big secret out of it.
Rip off the best, forget the rest. That way, everybody ends up with better products at the end of the day.
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