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Do you think China can supply authentic 1980's 4164 64Kx1 DRAM chips?
BrokenYugo:
Also, why buy such a common low cost part from China? I'm seeing 4164 NOS from US and European sellers at reasonable prices. Not like we're after some old ASIC here where the Shenzhen special is often the only option or high dollar parts where the gamble may be worth it.
e.g. (best deal I saw) https://www.ebay.com/itm/284216413617?epid=1923942526&hash=item422c9e4db1:g:Ak8AAOSwiONYNWN5 Though I'd assume this stuff is about as slow as it came without digging up and translating a datasheet.
Jameco also apparently has a source for it. https://www.jameco.com/z/4164-150-Major-Brands-IC-4164-150-DRAM-65-536-Bit-65-536x1-150ns-with-Page-Mode-DIP-16_41662.html
Alex Eisenhut:
I have hundreds of these chips from the '80s. Can't I just be curious?
Doctorandus_P:
If you do a picture search for Guiyu
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Guiyu&t=h_&iax=images&ia=images
Then you find pictures like below.
Apparently labor is cheap enough to recycle almost anything.
Bud:
Well, then the answer to OP question is Yes.
Bassman59:
--- Quote from: Alex Eisenhut on December 11, 2021, 07:21:05 pm ---https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32502628342.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.26d74c4djJ9h5F
Hard to tell from just their "glamour shot" of a generic vendor-less chip.
I ordered some for fun and what I got doesn't look right to me. I need to dig out my socketed C64 to test these chips later.
On the left is a real TI 41256 from my hoard. It's not the same type but the markings and package details are different from the Ali Express special on the right.
I know the pics are terrible, but the 1980s part has printed or silkscreened markings, but the Ali part is laser etched, I can see the depth of the markings,
Did they laser-etch chips like this in the 1980s?
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I don't know how many you need, but Jameco has a few hundred, and my guess is that what Jameco is selling is genuine.
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