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| Rutherfordium:
--- Quote from: nctnico on June 17, 2018, 02:41:35 pm --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on June 17, 2018, 02:34:44 pm --- --- Quote from: Hero999 on June 16, 2018, 07:34:52 pm ---Some people do weights because they like to have a muscular body, but I don't and don't believe it's healthy either. --- End quote --- That's why there are endurance weight workouts like BodyPump. Hundreds of reps instead of 10's at much lighter weight. It's a really inefficient way to bulk up, so you can go to town on endurance weight work and not look that muscular. --- End quote --- IMHO it also depends on what your work-out goal is. Burn calories (body fat) or build up muscles. Burning body fat means doing a light exercise for a long time. --- End quote --- "Burning" body fat is only accomplished by maintaining a calorie deficit. This could just as easily be accomplished by eating less. Building muscles requires a calorie surplus and sufficient stress to muscles to induce an adaptation. |
| CopperCone:
What I found happens if you take a stronglift program somewhat seriously being fat is that you typically maintain or slightly decrease your weight but you can lift like 250lb so that means you at least made some kind of fat muscle trade off but its highly satisfying anyway, and you cardio/ability to run increases greatly, but the problem is that you will have various stabilizer muscles and stuff that is not used for running so you may suddenly as a previously heavy man be able to run a seemingly long distance if you have been doing heavy lifting for a while but expect all the auxiliary stuff to hurt/encounter serious damage. I kind of think (though I am very uneducated here) that the type of muscles Dave Jones talks about is more grown to have high blood flow and possibly production of glycogen or whatever, while muscle grown for heavy/sporatic activity will not have as much infrastructure in it dedicated towards getting large volumes of blood into it or using blood to produce energy (I have to recover for a long time). Probably for most labor you will find that the endurance type muscle is more useful, however, I do wonder what the effect on heart strain is, I would expect the endurance type muscle to have higher fluid resistance because of its possibly higher surface area, so if you have a huge amount of it, it may be slightly more stressful on the heart then the other type, but I am pretty sure it would still be far better then fat. I got this idea by kind of following the BB community and noticing that many people (well steroid users that basically do heavy weights endurance (freakish)) seem to have an abnormal amount of heart problems.. and the debate is if it is purely due to steroids, related to 'good looking' obesity (mass term only, not fat, meaning that the mortality is the same as for a regular fat person), or a type of muscle growth that has a very high surface area so it acts as a strong resistance for the heart, possibly making the excess of such tissue more dangerous then an excess of fat for the heart. (but I suspect the people are still much much happier psychologically) Based on others peoples comments (taken with a grain of salt), it seems that the mortality of heavy muscular is higher then equally heavy fat(tissue) obese people, so there might be something here, but this would require me to put alot of effort to research problems I don't have or really care about too much . This would be people that weigh like 300lb. May be of interest to study if you want to make the choice between TRENT, methamphetamine and do heavy squats till exhaustion/death every day , or crushing 6 bags of family sized doritos every day :palm: |
| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on June 17, 2018, 02:34:44 pm ---That's why there are endurance weight workouts like BodyPump. Hundreds of reps instead of 10's at much lighter weight. It's a really inefficient way to bulk up, so you can go to town on endurance weight work and not look that muscular. It's always funny to watch the huge body builder guys try a BodyPump class, it's always the same - they scan the room to see what others are lifting, eye me off because I always have the most weight, think "huh, I can at least lift what that skinny guy is lifting", and then hilarity ensues ;D They learn very quickly that they are two very different ways of lifting. --- End quote --- I think there's some relatively recent research that challenges the classic workout wisdom that high intensity training gains mass and low intensity training builds lean efficient muscles, but I won't make the mistake of arguing for or against that wisdom. |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: Rutherfordium on June 17, 2018, 03:48:39 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on June 17, 2018, 02:41:35 pm --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on June 17, 2018, 02:34:44 pm --- --- Quote from: Hero999 on June 16, 2018, 07:34:52 pm ---Some people do weights because they like to have a muscular body, but I don't and don't believe it's healthy either. --- End quote --- That's why there are endurance weight workouts like BodyPump. Hundreds of reps instead of 10's at much lighter weight. It's a really inefficient way to bulk up, so you can go to town on endurance weight work and not look that muscular. --- End quote --- IMHO it also depends on what your work-out goal is. Burn calories (body fat) or build up muscles. Burning body fat means doing a light exercise for a long time. --- End quote --- "Burning" body fat is only accomplished by maintaining a calorie deficit. This could just as easily be accomplished by eating less. --- End quote --- Neither losing weight nor bulking up were my goals which, was to become more healthy. The weight loss was unexpected and not planned. In theory eating less can cause fat loss, but in practise isn't easy, is unsustainable, in the long term and ultimately results in muscle loss too. Exercising regularly is more sustainable and can result in a reduction in body fat, without the need to restrict energy intake. It's certainly much more healthy, than dieting which normally fails, in the long run. |
| malagas_on_fire:
I do swim twice per week, at least 1200m to 1500m in one hour. I have swimmed last two weeks 2km but it was during 2 hours period. Also i do hinking on parks, across the rivers. When the pool closes for holiday usually i go to a river that mininal safe to swim without hitting rocks or branches, or run ocassionally. I do freestyle ( crawl) , backstroke and breastroke, but butterfly only leg training, two pools... |
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