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| Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: Hero999 on June 17, 2018, 04:36:11 pm ---Neither losing weight nor bulking up were my goals which, was to become more healthy. The weight loss was unexpected and not planned. In theory eating less can cause fat loss, but in practise isn't easy, is unsustainable, in the long term and ultimately results in muscle loss too. Exercising regularly is more sustainable and can result in a reduction in body fat, without the need to restrict energy intake. It's certainly much more healthy, than dieting which normally fails, in the long run. --- End quote --- The mistake a lot of people make is dieting instead of changing your eating habits. Torturing yourself for a little while is no use, you need to make permanent or long term changes. Obviously, those are going to be much less extreme. Exercise isn't a very effective way to burn fat, simply because the extra energy spent is only a tiny fraction of the energy you use daily. Just staying alive and digesting foods consumes the vast majority of the energy you burn. Not to mention people that exercise tend to compensate their energy spent by eating more. Exercise makes hungry. That leads to the conclusion that sensibly reducing energy intake is a relatively effective way of reducing fat, although doing exercise does help creating an energy deficient state. Exercise does improve countless others things though, so going at it is certainly a good idea. That being said, as always it's not as black and white as people make it to be. People have all sorts of ridiculous convictions when it comes to food and exercise. There's a lot of harmful nonsense floating around, often preached as absolute truth and defended to the death. |
| CopperCone:
I do have to say though that when I was younger in the 18-20 year area I used to do jogging like jog 1-2 miles at 4am when I could not sleep in school, and the benefits I enjoy from weight lifting are far superior imo. I also used to do some things like circuit exercises with lighter weights (say up to 25lb dumbells) when I jogged, but not during jogging obviously |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on June 17, 2018, 05:02:00 pm --- --- Quote from: Hero999 on June 17, 2018, 04:36:11 pm ---Neither losing weight nor bulking up were my goals which, was to become more healthy. The weight loss was unexpected and not planned. In theory eating less can cause fat loss, but in practise isn't easy, is unsustainable, in the long term and ultimately results in muscle loss too. Exercising regularly is more sustainable and can result in a reduction in body fat, without the need to restrict energy intake. It's certainly much more healthy, than dieting which normally fails, in the long run. --- End quote --- The mistake a lot of people make is dieting instead of changing your eating habits. Torturing yourself for a little while is no use, you need to make permanent or long term changes. Obviously, those are going to be much less extreme. Exercise isn't a very effective way to burn fat, simply because the extra energy spent is only a tiny fraction of the energy you use daily. Just staying alive and digesting foods consumes the vast majority of the energy you burn. Not to mention people that exercise tend to compensate their energy spent by eating more. Exercise makes hungry. That leads to the conclusion that sensibly reducing energy intake is a relatively effective way of reducing fat, although doing exercise does help creating an energy deficient state. Exercise does improve countless others things though, so going at it is certainly a good idea. --- End quote --- My personal experience is that eating less isn't causing any weight loss at some point. It is like a new balance is achieved. For me doing exercise does help to lose weight but it is going slow. --- Quote ---That being said, as always it's not as black and white as people make it to be. People have all sorts of ridiculous convictions when it comes to food and exercise. There's a lot of harmful nonsense floating around, often preached as absolute truth and defended to the death. --- End quote --- I agree about the short term diets. These don't work long term and crap like don't mixing certain kinds of foods, etc isn't going to work either. The bottom line is that in order to lose weight you need to burn more calories than you eat. |
| NiHaoMike:
What about the few who eat a lot, exercise little, and yet are really skinny? (I know a few who are like that, both on TV and in real life.) The vague answer is "they have a high metabolism", but do scientists know about the exact details? |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 17, 2018, 07:04:22 pm ---What about the few who eat a lot, exercise little, and yet are really skinny? (I know a few who are like that, both on TV and in real life.) The vague answer is "they have a high metabolism", but do scientists know about the exact details? --- End quote --- I know a few people like that too. I've read an interesting article about that in a science magazine. It seems that the amount of fat storage cells varies for each person. If a person doesn't have the storage space available then the excess food just goes out again. High metabolism is not a good thing to have BTW. |
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