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Zero999:

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--- Quote from: Hero999 on June 17, 2018, 04:36:11 pm ---Neither losing weight nor bulking up were my goals which, was to become more healthy. The weight loss was unexpected and not planned.

In theory eating less can cause fat loss, but in practise isn't easy, is unsustainable, in the long term and ultimately results in muscle loss too. Exercising regularly is more sustainable and can result in a reduction in body fat, without the need to restrict energy intake. It's certainly much more healthy, than dieting which normally fails, in the long run.

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The mistake a lot of people make is dieting instead of changing your eating habits. Torturing yourself for a little while is no use, you need to make permanent or long term changes. Obviously, those are going to be much less extreme.
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What if your diet isn't that bad, yet you're still overweight? The only way to cut back would be to deliberately restrict intake, permanently, which lead to feelings of deprivation and eventually binge eating. What's worse is the muscle lost when one is restricting is only replaced with fat when the weight is regained. Another problem is it's common to overshoot one's starting weight too.


--- Quote ---Exercise isn't a very effective way to burn fat, simply because the extra energy spent is only a tiny fraction of the energy you use daily. Just staying alive and digesting foods consumes the vast majority of the energy you burn. Not to mention people that exercise tend to compensate their energy spent by eating more. Exercise makes hungry. That leads to the conclusion that sensibly reducing energy intake is a relatively effective way of reducing fat, although doing exercise does help creating an energy deficient state. Exercise does improve countless others things though, so going at it is certainly a good idea.
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In my experience, I've found the opposite to be true. Yes, I do compensate by eating more, but that's a good thing. If I didn't, I'd be badly malnourished by now. There's no way I could do the exercise I do and eat what I did before, without it damaging my health.

When I started my exercise regime, I did eat more, when I was more active but I didn't entirely compensate with extra energy intake, so I still achieved a net energy expenditure: only a small energy deficit is required to lose weight and it's not difficult to achieve this, by doing more intensive exercise. The weight came off very slowly, but I believe that was the best way. Now, my weight has stabilised, at a healthy level, I do fully compensate with extra energy intake, which is healthy, even if what I sometimes eat isn't. If I've neglected to eat enough for a day or so, I do get cravings and will eat some high energy food, which may not be ideal, but it's better than the alternative: malnutrition. Of course the most healthy thing would be to have eaten enough in the first place, but real life can get in the way.

One of the benefits of exercise is improved insulin response and a faster metabolism, due to increased lean body mass vs fat, which will make your body better at managing its own energy intake vs expenditure and less prone to excessive weight gain. The main reasons people tend to gain weight as they get older, is because their metabolism slows down and their insulin response deteriorates, which both lead to weight gain and exercise helps to prevent it.

In the past, I've tried all the standard advice about following a healthy, balanced diet, without restricting my intake and it didn't work. I still ended up overweight. It's genetic. If I live a sedentary lifestyle, I'll gain weight, even with a healthy diet. I don't keep gaining weight forever, but it all piles around my middle. No amount of dieting fixes it. Some people are lucky, their genes mean they can lead a sedentary lifestyle, eat what they want and not get fat. Then there are people worse off than me, who'll probably always be overweight to some degree, even with a healthy diet and exercise regime: the key for them is keeping it to a safe level.


--- Quote ---That being said, as always it's not as black and white as people make it to be. People have all sorts of ridiculous convictions when it comes to food and exercise. There's a lot of harmful nonsense floating around, often preached as absolute truth and defended to the death.
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I agree. One of the most harmful ones I see, is people believing that restricting their food intake is good or healthy. In reality restriction is generally bad. There may be exceptional circumstances, when it's a good idea, but it's not natural and tends to lead to disordered eating, whether it's clinically diagnosable: binge eating, bulimia, anorexia etc. or not.

Miyuki:
My house is one big gym  ;D
Just little digging today, then some add some cabless and pipes, put floor heating tube and pour concrete
It is nice to see outcome

Bud:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 17, 2018, 07:04:22 pm ---What about the few who eat a lot, exercise little, and yet are really skinny? (I know a few who are like that, both on TV and in real life.) The vague answer is "they have a high metabolism", but do scientists know about the exact details?

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All they need to do is to wait until they hit their 40th birthday. Then the countdown starts.

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: Bud on June 17, 2018, 11:28:56 pm ---
--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 17, 2018, 07:04:22 pm ---What about the few who eat a lot, exercise little, and yet are really skinny? (I know a few who are like that, both on TV and in real life.) The vague answer is "they have a high metabolism", but do scientists know about the exact details?

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All they need to do is to wait until they hit their 40th birthday. Then the countdown starts.

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One of them is about that old and shows no sign of weight gain. Also interesting to note that it seems to be most common with Asians, so genetics is definitely a factor.

Leiothrix:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on June 17, 2018, 07:04:22 pm ---What about the few who eat a lot, exercise little, and yet are really skinny?

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That's because people are crap about estimating what they eat.  Get them to actually count the calories they put in their face and it will most likely give the answer you'd expect.

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