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Does anyone else pronounce "Soldering" as "Saudering"?
TimFox:
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--- Quote from: Bluesharp on November 10, 2023, 10:09:42 pm ---This is a particular annoyance of mine, since there are no extra characters in the word "aluminum" that would cause it to be pronounced "Al-u-min-ium".
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Really? And there I was thinking it was spelt aluminium.
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It's spelt aluminum in american english. And aluminium pretty much everywhere else. That would be why. Probably comes from customary pronunciation in america that has made it to the dictionary.
Not that it's particularly interesting.
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From the 'net: Note that the "i" was added by Brits who liked to use Latin.
"The term 'aluminum' was created by the man who first identified the existence of the element, British chemist Humphry Davy. Davy originally referred to the element as 'alumium' but ultimately altered the name to 'aluminum'.
The term 'aluminium' emerged around the same time as Davy’s 'aluminum'. This term seems to have been motivated by a desire to give the element a name that sounded more like classical Latin, which was in line with other known elements at the time whose names ended in –ium, such as magnesium and calcium.
For the rest of the 1800s, both 'aluminum' and 'aluminium' were commonly used to refer to the element. Beginning in the 1900s, preferences for each term began to split among users. 'Aluminum' became the more popular name in American English, and 'aluminium' became the more popular name in British English. These preferences are still common today, but most chemistry organizations recognize both terms as acceptable."
msuffidy:
So like sauté?
soldar:
--- Quote from: Bluesharp on November 10, 2023, 10:09:42 pm ---Hello, I'm American.
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This is a particular annoyance of mine, since there are no extra characters in the word "aluminum" that would cause it to be pronounced "Al-u-min-ium".
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Huh. Interesting. Americans not only pronounce it wrong but also write it wrong to cover up their mistake. Huh. Interesting.
Xena E:
--- Quote from: John Coloccia on May 02, 2014, 05:31:48 pm ---
British English diverged sometime after North America was settled. If you want to hear how the English sounded a few hundred years ago, listen to Americans. :) There was a movement in England to "correct" pronunciation, and they swept through and basically invented the accent and pronunciation you hear today. That's also why that general style of pronunciation is not ubiquitous through all of Great Britain. The English diverged. Everyone else just stayed as they were.
English is such a screwed up language anyway. These inconsistencies in pronunciation are minor little details compared to the absolute train wreck the rest of the language is.
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Give this guy the prize!
American English is more faithful to the language in Georgian/Victorian England than is modern English it is true...
And as for being screwed up and complicated what do you expect? it isn't even the original language of the British Isles! More a case of what you get by shoving Latin, modern French, modern German, Welsh, Galic, Anglo Saxon to name but the main ingredients, into the blender for a few centuries and calling the mess that comes out a language.
Even now there are personalities in the UK who try to reinvent the pronunciation of everyday words, and particularly place names. They are just bunch of elitist Waynekurs :)
Dim bull bee ;)
What's wrong with just leaving shit alone?
Never could understand why the Americanism for arithmetic is MATH though, is the contraction of mathematics not MATHS or are calculations considered a singular endeavour?
Aluminium as I would say it is not the original name for the metal, going back to origins I believe that was indeed aluminum.
It's all babel not worth fighting over.
BTW. I say sold_er_ing FWIW but live and let live.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: soldar on November 11, 2023, 11:27:16 am ---
--- Quote from: Bluesharp on November 10, 2023, 10:09:42 pm ---Hello, I'm American.
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This is a particular annoyance of mine, since there are no extra characters in the word "aluminum" that would cause it to be pronounced "Al-u-min-ium".
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Huh. Interesting. Americans not only pronounce it wrong but also write it wrong to cover up their mistake. Huh. Interesting.
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Strictly speaking, it should be, alum in um.
Going back to the original topic. I created a thread with some sound files of me attempting to say solder in different accents and butchering the US one quite badly.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/pronunciation-of-the-word-solder/
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