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Does anyone else pronounce "Soldering" as "Saudering"?
Richard Crowley:
--- Quote ---The word solder comes from the Middle English word soudur, via Old French solduree and soulder, from the Latin solidare, meaning "to make solid".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder
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There appears to be no "L" in the root source word: "soudur". So perhaps pronouncing the silent-L is a continental affectation. ;)
XOIIO:
--- Quote from: IanB on May 02, 2014, 04:38:45 pm ---
--- Quote from: XOIIO on May 02, 2014, 01:27:27 pm ---I started out pronouncing it saudering, and when I audited a college class in grade 8 for electronics fabrication, the instructor also pronounced it saudering
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A clarification here: so you mean "saudering" as in "sohdering", or "saudering" as in "soddering"?
Because I don't think I have ever heard "sohdering".
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It would be soddering
IanB:
--- Quote from: Richard Crowley on May 02, 2014, 05:15:34 pm ---
--- Quote ---The word solder comes from the Middle English word soudur, via Old French solduree and soulder, from the Latin solidare, meaning "to make solid".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder
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There appears to be no "L" in the root source word: "soudur". So perhaps pronouncing the silent-L is a continental affectation. ;)
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Yet compare with this:
--- Quote ---The word soldier entered modern English in the 14th century from the equivalent Middle English word soudeour, from Anglo-French soudeer or soudeour, meaning mercenary
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A similar root source word with no "L", yet we say "soldier" and not "soddier".
So really, there is no winning :)
At least British English is consistent in pronouncing both solder and soldier in a consistent fashion--not that there is all that much consistency in English pronunciation in general ;D
John Coloccia:
--- Quote from: IanB on May 02, 2014, 05:24:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: Richard Crowley on May 02, 2014, 05:15:34 pm ---
--- Quote ---The word solder comes from the Middle English word soudur, via Old French solduree and soulder, from the Latin solidare, meaning "to make solid".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder
--- End quote ---
There appears to be no "L" in the root source word: "soudur". So perhaps pronouncing the silent-L is a continental affectation. ;)
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Yet compare with this:
--- Quote ---The word soldier entered modern English in the 14th century from the equivalent Middle English word soudeour, from Anglo-French soudeer or soudeour, meaning mercenary
--- End quote ---
A similar root source word with no "L", yet we say "soldier" and not "soddier".
So really, there is no winning :)
At least British English is consistent in pronouncing both solder and soldier in a consistent fashion--not that there is all that much consistency in English pronunciation in general ;D
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British English diverged sometime after North America was settled. If you want to hear how the English sounded a few hundred years ago, listen to Americans. :) There was a movement in England to "correct" pronunciation, and they swept through and basically invented the accent and pronunciation you hear today. That's also why that general style of pronunciation is not ubiquitous through all of Great Britain. The English diverged. Everyone else just stayed as they were.
English is such a screwed up language anyway. These inconsistencies in pronunciation are minor little details compared to the absolute train wreck the rest of the language is.
8086:
--- Quote ---Does anyone else pronounce "Soldering" as "Saudering"?
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No, because that is wrong.
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