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| Rigby:
--- Quote from: Richard Crowley on May 02, 2014, 03:32:09 pm --- --- Quote from: Rigby on May 02, 2014, 02:03:11 pm --- Sometimes I can't watch videos of Americans that pronounce it the other way around, because I know they're doing it to piss people off rather than to honor some appropriate pronunciation BS they made up. --- End quote --- --- Quote ---Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor --- End quote --- --- End quote --- Well stupidity does not adequately explain these cases, because they addressed the pronunciation in each case in a video, agreed that they were pronouncing it wrong, and basically said "I'm going to say it that way anyway, so get used to it." That's perfectly fine, they can choose to do that. I can choose to find it annoying and choose to not watch their videos, too. And, I've done so. |
| chipwitch:
"L" is silent here. Soddering, to be sure. I think the bigger question is, "Regardless of how you pronounce it, is it acceptable to call soldering welding? Am I the only one annoyed by that? I see that so often, I'm beginning to wonder if that is now acceptable? I've only seen it in text. Maybe they're pronouncing it "wedding?" :D |
| chipwitch:
--- Quote from: John Coloccia on May 02, 2014, 05:31:48 pm --- --- Quote from: IanB on May 02, 2014, 05:24:42 pm --- --- Quote from: Richard Crowley on May 02, 2014, 05:15:34 pm --- --- Quote ---The word solder comes from the Middle English word soudur, via Old French solduree and soulder, from the Latin solidare, meaning "to make solid". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder --- End quote --- There appears to be no "L" in the root source word: "soudur". So perhaps pronouncing the silent-L is a continental affectation. ;) --- End quote --- Yet compare with this: --- Quote ---The word soldier entered modern English in the 14th century from the equivalent Middle English word soudeour, from Anglo-French soudeer or soudeour, meaning mercenary --- End quote --- A similar root source word with no "L", yet we say "soldier" and not "soddier". So really, there is no winning :) At least British English is consistent in pronouncing both solder and soldier in a consistent fashion--not that there is all that much consistency in English pronunciation in general ;D --- End quote --- British English diverged sometime after North America was settled. If you want to hear how the English sounded a few hundred years ago, listen to Americans. :) There was a movement in England to "correct" pronunciation, and they swept through and basically invented the accent and pronunciation you hear today. That's also why that general style of pronunciation is not ubiquitous through all of Great Britain. The English diverged. Everyone else just stayed as they were. English is such a screwed up language anyway. These inconsistencies in pronunciation are minor little details compared to the absolute train wreck the rest of the language is. --- End quote --- I've never heard that before, but if you go back just a couple hundred more than you suggest, none of us could understand the language. Whan that Aprill, with his shoures soote.... :o Languages evolve relative to proximity. With the shrinking of the world (air travel, telephone, internet etc) languages are actually beginning to meld. |
| John Coloccia:
--- Quote from: chipwitch on May 02, 2014, 06:46:54 pm ---"L" is silent here. Soddering, to be sure. I think the bigger question is, "Regardless of how you pronounce it, is it acceptable to call soldering welding? Am I the only one annoyed by that? I see that so often, I'm beginning to wonder if that is now acceptable? I've only seen it in text. Maybe they're pronouncing it "wedding?" :D --- End quote --- You can meld two wires by soldering. It's incorrect to call it welding since welding requires melting of the base metals. Soldering dissolves the base metals and though it's essentially an alloying process, no base metal is ever melted. It would be no more correct to drop a piece of metal into a vat of acid, wait for it to dissolve, and then say that the metal was welded to the acid. |
| MatCat:
Everyone I know in person pronounces it 'sod-er', as an anecdote I am originally from the state of NJ (Not near NYC!), where most people pronounce things like 'water' as 'wore-der'. |
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