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Does anyone else pronounce "Soldering" as "Saudering"?
lowimpedance:
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on May 05, 2014, 05:49:14 am ---Some years back,when I got into oxy-acetylene welding,books from the main supplier of such gear in Oz referred to what is commonly known as "brazing" (using a torch & filler rod), as "braze welding" to distinguish it from the practice of brazing using a forge.
Neither process,although they both fit your definition,is called "soldering".
Then,just to confuse things,the same process,using silver alloy filler rods is commonly known as "silver soldering"! ::)
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Indeed, and these 'types of soldering is generally referred to as hard soldering, where as the tin lead variety is soft soldering !.
London Lad:
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on May 05, 2014, 05:49:14 am ---
--- Quote from: London Lad on May 03, 2014, 10:04:33 am ---
--- Quote from: John Coloccia on May 02, 2014, 07:01:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: chipwitch on May 02, 2014, 06:46:54 pm ---"L" is silent here. Soddering, to be sure. I think the bigger question is, "Regardless of how you pronounce it, is it acceptable to call soldering welding? Am I the only one annoyed by that? I see that so often, I'm beginning to wonder if that is now acceptable? I've only seen it in text. Maybe they're pronouncing it "wedding?" :D
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You can meld two wires by soldering. It's incorrect to call it welding since welding requires melting of the base metals. Soldering dissolves the base metals and though it's essentially an alloying process, no base metal is ever melted. It would be no more correct to drop a piece of metal into a vat of acid, wait for it to dissolve, and then say that the metal was welded to the acid.
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Soldering is joining two metals with a filler metal of a lower melting point.
Welding is joining two metals with a filler metal of the same melting point.
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Some years back,when I got into oxy-acetylene welding,books from the main supplier of such gear in Oz referred to what is commonly known as "brazing" (using a torch & filler rod), as "braze welding" to distinguish it from the practice of brazing using a forge.
Neither process,although they both fit your definition,is called "soldering".
Then,just to confuse things,the same process,using silver alloy filler rods is commonly known as "silver soldering"! ::)
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I was taught that brazing was still soldering as the filler was usually brass ie softer than the metal being joined but this was referred to as hard soldering.
XOIIO:
--- Quote from: mojo-chan on May 05, 2014, 12:05:07 pm ---Long story short: In English is it "solder", in American English it is "sodder". People who say "sauder" are just wrong.
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Well, when I threw this poll up the sauder option and sodder were the same pronunciation in my mind, but maybe you are thinking it would be pronounced more like sowder?
I guess these are the problems with talking about pronunciation over text lol
deth502:
--- Quote from: London Lad on May 05, 2014, 09:09:03 am ---
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on May 05, 2014, 05:49:14 am ---
--- Quote from: London Lad on May 03, 2014, 10:04:33 am ---
--- Quote from: John Coloccia on May 02, 2014, 07:01:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: chipwitch on May 02, 2014, 06:46:54 pm ---"L" is silent here. Soddering, to be sure. I think the bigger question is, "Regardless of how you pronounce it, is it acceptable to call soldering welding? Am I the only one annoyed by that? I see that so often, I'm beginning to wonder if that is now acceptable? I've only seen it in text. Maybe they're pronouncing it "wedding?" :D
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You can meld two wires by soldering. It's incorrect to call it welding since welding requires melting of the base metals. Soldering dissolves the base metals and though it's essentially an alloying process, no base metal is ever melted. It would be no more correct to drop a piece of metal into a vat of acid, wait for it to dissolve, and then say that the metal was welded to the acid.
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Soldering is joining two metals with a filler metal of a lower melting point.
Welding is joining two metals with a filler metal of the same melting point.
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Some years back,when I got into oxy-acetylene welding,books from the main supplier of such gear in Oz referred to what is commonly known as "brazing" (using a torch & filler rod), as "braze welding" to distinguish it from the practice of brazing using a forge.
Neither process,although they both fit your definition,is called "soldering".
Then,just to confuse things,the same process,using silver alloy filler rods is commonly known as "silver soldering"! ::)
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I was taught that brazing was still soldering as the filler was usually brass ie softer than the metal being joined but this was referred to as hard soldering.
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way i learned it was welding required the melting together of the filler with the base metal (or just the melting of the base metal if no filler is used)
brazing and soldering, well, basically, the same thing. the processes and theories are all exactly the same, the base metal is not melted together with the filler. the only difference between brazing and soldering was the temperature at which it occurred,although i do not remember where soldering stopped and brazing began, but it is somewhere around the temperature where you would switch from a common plumbers torch to an o-a torch.
XOIIO:
--- Quote from: mojo-chan on May 06, 2014, 09:05:05 am ---
--- Quote from: XOIIO on May 05, 2014, 12:18:11 pm ---Well, when I threw this poll up the sauder option and sodder were the same pronunciation in my mind, but maybe you are thinking it would be pronounced more like sowder?
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"Sauder" is pronounced with an elongated "a", kind of like "saw-der". A lot of Americans on YouTube say it that way, but I'm struggling to think of an example. Connor Wolf perhaps? Sounds Germanic to me.
Other say "sodder", with the stress on the double "d". Limor Fried says it that way, nearly spewed coffee over my keyboard when she first suggested some kid should have fun with his buggering iron. She is based in NY I think, is that a NY accent?
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buggering iron? lol
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