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| Simon:
You are delusional, you have no enforceable contract with anyone. How much is your time worth? Just pay for a new tool with a local company and cut your losses. |
| peter-h:
Why do we use China? Tooling: UK=£6k, China=USD3k Mouldings: UK=£0.50, China=USD0.13 (+shipping of USD0.07) The risk is that you are often dealing with what over here one would call criminals. |
| Simon:
Right so how many are you making a year? can your mark-up tolerate the increase in price? I don't know what you put in these enclosures but you are talking a piece price increase of 35p but you do have the increased tooling up front. But then with all the potential hassle over a part you cannot just replace what is the cost of loosing that part? |
| all_repair:
Why would the sub-contractor/vendor of your main supplier want to deal with you? Don't waste their time and also your time. I think I can source quite well from China , but sometime I also got hit. It is part of the sourcing process. Your process in sourcing can be improved further. To start off, the catalogue you referred to is full of traders. The better their English, the less likely they are the real manufacturers. My reading of the deal is the mold may or may not be there. When I cannot access it, it is not mine from the first day. The pricing and the breakdown the supplier provided is what needed to cover their profit and also what could make me accept, or my approving body accept. In short, the breakdown is irrelevant. And this quote is only good for one time only. The quote for next order shall have unit price increase as they cannot charge for the mold again, but their cost and their markup is likely the same. |
| rsjsouza:
Interesting discussion and unfortunately for the OP I don't have a good source in China. For two of our products we were offered the option to create a custom design, but we refused due to the low volumes (around 10k/yr) and the hassle of micro manage the whole process. We ended up with standard enclosures from a reputable manufacturer. Obviously that there is always risk: the manufacturer can simply decide to discontinue the product as well, but they have a policy of early warning AND we have a purchasing contract with them. One interesting thing mentioned in floobydust's post is that the conditions mentioned there are true for any of the countries that I know of. If you have a contract unenforceable in a jurisdiction and not written in the local language, you will indeed have to risk 5~6 figures amount to pursue that. And this is a gamble. Things inproved in the international dealings in the past decades, but you still need deep pockets... |
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