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Offline IanB

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Double jeopardy
« on: September 30, 2018, 05:11:49 pm »
Just seen on Facebook. At least they have correct use of the word electrocution, which is something.


I'm not an EE--what am I doing here?
 
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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2018, 05:14:08 pm »
That's some penalty.
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2018, 05:26:52 pm »
Your money AND your life - as if death isn't a sufficient deterrent.

I wonder what's behind the door?

 
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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2018, 05:38:46 pm »
They will chase your relatives for the fine part.
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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2018, 05:48:34 pm »
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They will chase your relatives for the fine part.

Eur 50 is actually pretty reasonable then. An arc flash could mean a lot of cleaning up in there!
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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2018, 09:57:27 pm »
Maybe it should have read a 50€ fine and then death by electrocution?
I mean, get the money first, for goodness sake!
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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2018, 09:59:12 pm »
The Random capitalisations people Can Come Up with never cease to Amaze Me.
 
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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2018, 12:27:15 am »
They will open that box and see the light at the end of the tunnel.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2018, 12:34:44 am by MrMobodies »
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2018, 12:32:55 am »
They will open that box and see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Yup, the freight train about to run their @SS over.
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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2018, 06:32:28 am »
Given it's 50 euro's and therefore in a country belonging to the EU, behind the door is probably 2 LiIon batteries connected in parallel  :scared:
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2018, 07:20:44 am »
If merely opening the box electrocutes you, that's some pretty stupid tech. Most boxes are sophisticated enough to require you to at least reach inside and touch something else first.
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2018, 10:38:39 am »
If merely opening the box electrocutes you, that's some pretty stupid tech. Most boxes are sophisticated enough to require you to at least reach inside and touch something else first.

It's necessary to overstate it, the average intelligence of those who break in to electrical installations (and telecoms cabling) with the intent of stealing copper or aluminium is quite low.

Metal thieves cause blackouts and the cause is often stated as 'a small fire in a substation'.

The 'small fire' is their clothing and fat burning.

Those who steal telecoms cabling are of similar low intellect, in one instance close to where I live, over 600 lines were taken down for four days by idiots who cut and removed a hundred metres or so of fibre optic 'cable'
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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2018, 05:20:20 pm »
What country is that sign from?  The only English speaking country using Euro I can think of is Ireland.
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2018, 05:38:50 pm »
I believe that the logical operator "AND" is incorrect here.
It should be rather "XOR"

So the sign should read: Opening this box will result in death by electrocution Xor a 50€ fine.
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2018, 06:00:26 pm »
What country is that sign from?  The only English speaking country using Euro I can think of is Ireland.

Well, should it surprise you that it's an Irish sign?  ;D
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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2018, 06:14:16 pm »
Well, should it surprise you that it's an Irish sign?  ;D

Well that explains the ironic 50 euro fine applied in the afterlife.


I wonder how the Electricians who service this cabinet get on, one hell of an health and safety issue.
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2018, 05:45:20 pm »
I have seen a horrifying video that I found on Liveleak of someone so badly burnt you could see his diaphragm through a hole in his lung move up and down .
The sad thing was it was a child and still alive unaware of what was going on with everyone taking pictures.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=ad4_1484873755

He opened the box, put his hand in there and sat on the lid but I didn't see any disconnected cables.
It must of arced through him to the ground.

I don't see any warning signs but the doors are facing the ground.
The doors look heavy and maybe it was left opened by someone else.
They called him a copper thief as in the title but at that age he could have just been messing about.
It is in South Africa and I wonder about the safety as in that video.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2018, 06:19:36 pm by MrMobodies »
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2018, 01:14:29 pm »
There are several very impressive videos on Youtube related to accidents in electrical cabinets.

One of them I saw a little while ago, it had happened to an experienced electrician at a paper mill. The video did not show any gross images, but the description of the interviewed co-worker made your hair rise. Basically the poor guy caught fire. The interior of the cabinet was thoroughly gutted, heavy steel racks were completely deformed.

What all of the co-workers wondered was how a dedicated and experienced electrician could have made a rookie mistake.
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2018, 12:10:17 am »
What country is that sign from?  The only English speaking country using Euro I can think of is Ireland.

The sign in the photo has been "Photoshopped" so trying to figure out where it was taken is a rather pointless endeavor.
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2018, 01:02:42 am »
The sign in the photo has been "Photoshopped" so trying to figure out where it was taken is a rather pointless endeavor.

I assume your conclusion is related to the jpeg artefacting around the black-on-white lettering?
But that is a normal characteristic of jpg images. In this photo it just stands out because that lettering is the _only_ grouping of high contrast black-white shapes in the image. However if you look closely at all other light-dark lines in the image, there's a similar amount of artefacting, just lower contrast because the primary feature is also low contrast.

Something that makes me tend to think it's a genuine image, is the vertical bar of diffuse shadow across the text area. There are no visible flaws in the edge shading of that shadow, which would be difficult to get right in photoshop.

Btw, the sign's wording is not logically inconsistent. They didn't specify the order, or claim that the electrocution would occur at the box. It could mean the fine first, then execution by electric chair.  They're just being polite with their threat.
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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2018, 07:09:26 pm »
What country is that sign from?  The only English speaking country using Euro I can think of is Ireland.

The sign in the photo has been "Photoshopped" so trying to figure out where it was taken is a rather pointless endeavor.

Not really a photoshop as you can find better quality pics with a bit of google-fu. Still don't know where you can see this.
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2018, 09:25:25 pm »
Is that sign held up by magnets?
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2018, 09:17:33 pm »
Is that sign held up by magnets?

Probably these
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2018, 10:15:23 pm »
The Random capitalisations people Can Come Up with never cease to Amaze Me.
Certain words on the sign are being *emphasized* just like you do with a text message.
 

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Re: Double jeopardy
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2018, 12:25:05 am »
Certain words on the sign are being *emphasized* just like you do with a text message.
I'd instantly delete all messages plus the phone number of anyone who does that at me. I've never seen that convention either. Asterisks, sure. All capitals or using spacing too. But not this. Thankfully.
 


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