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Offline LeeimaTopic starter

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Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« on: February 20, 2024, 05:26:03 pm »
Can anyone explain these symbols to me?
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there's the earth/ground symbol in three variations (that I know) "white on green", "black on yellow", and "white on blue"

I know that white on blue labels usually indicate mandatory, but what I couldn't figure out if that meant it was already bonded to earth, or I needed to provide an external earth connection to it.
It's a label I have on a rackmount PDU.

Ideally I'd use that point as my earth point, and the rest of my earth would be tied to that, but if that is not the case then I would need to get access to the earth from the main cable plugge din

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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2024, 06:02:50 pm »
https://incompliancemag.com/article/the-grounding-symbols/

Colour seems irrelevant but the symbols to differ.
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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2024, 06:26:10 pm »
Generally they are chosen to have good contrast with the background they are to be affixed to. There is no significance beyond that.
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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2024, 07:07:15 pm »
Thanks, I thought there may be some obscure wiring regulation denoting the different colour combinations
 

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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2024, 09:21:54 pm »
Only the green symbol has a standardised meaning.
Not because it's green, but because there's a circle around it.
This is internationally recognized as "Protective Earth", short: PE.
The two other symbols are arbitrary and can mean anything, depending on manufacturer and location.
 

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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2024, 06:14:33 am »
They all technically have a circle around them. Back to generalisations, but the better the manufacturer, the less ambiguous it is likely to be.
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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2024, 10:02:23 pm »
Explain them?

Looks to me that the WRONG people are doing things. We have had perfectly good symbols for chassis and if the local electrical codes are followed, EARTH ground for well over a century. There is no reason for such tomfoolery. And the constant invention of new symbols only serves to confuse people and make things LESS SAFE!
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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2024, 01:04:00 pm »
The symbol itself is fairly straightforward, what wasn't clear was whether the colours mattered (like it does with electrical wiring)

A colleague of mine thought that they might, but I couldn't find any confirmation one way or the other
 

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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2024, 07:07:55 am »
I thought mendip_discovery answered your question in the second post. I was addressing the things others have been saying.
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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2024, 07:34:31 am »
I know that white on blue labels usually indicate mandatory

I don't think so, and also never heard of that before.  Color doesn't matter.

Highly unlikely to be any safety marks based on color alone.  The symbol has to have something else distinguishable, other than color alone.  The number of color-blind people is quite high, particularly for colors green and blue.
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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2024, 05:41:24 pm »
Oddly enough the UK does use colours for safety signs.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/341/schedule/1/made

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The instructions in the table below apply to all signs incorporating a safety colour.
ColourMeaning or purposeInstructions and information
RedProhibition sign
Danger alarm
Fire-fighting equipment
Dangerous behaviour
Stop, shutdown, emergency cut out devices, Evacuate
Identification and location
Yellow or AmberWarning signBe careful, take precautions
Examine
BlueMandatory signSpecific behaviour or action
Wear personal protective equipment
GreenEmergency escape, first aid sign
No danger
Doors, exits, routes, equipment, facilities
Return to normal

Though I doubt it makes a difference with those symbols.
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Re: Earth Bonding Symbol Question
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2024, 06:30:28 am »
Oddly enough the UK does use colours for safety signs.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/341/schedule/1/made

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The instructions in the table below apply to all signs incorporating a safety colour.
ColourMeaning or purposeInstructions and information
RedProhibition sign
Danger alarm
Fire-fighting equipment
Dangerous behaviour
Stop, shutdown, emergency cut out devices, Evacuate
Identification and location
Yellow or AmberWarning signBe careful, take precautions
Examine
BlueMandatory signSpecific behaviour or action
Wear personal protective equipment
GreenEmergency escape, first aid sign
No danger
Doors, exits, routes, equipment, facilities
Return to normal

Though I doubt it makes a difference with those symbols.

It doesn't.
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