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Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« on: November 05, 2020, 12:40:14 am »
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2020, 12:57:46 am »
Clearly an error by some incompetent eBay staff |O Hopefully it gets resolved quickly.
Edit: Surely they're not just banning it because it's popular to build emulator systems with? You'd have to ban all computers by that logic.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2020, 12:59:17 am by sandalcandal »
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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2020, 01:00:12 am »
Yet still many other sellers on there with R-pi's, Orange Pi's etc.

Is there a review process?
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2020, 01:42:33 am »
Automated process?

That certainly is absurd.
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2020, 02:00:56 am »
Probably ML (Machine Learning) trained model detected and raised the issue
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2020, 02:13:46 am »
What would an automated detection system even pick up on? I don't think Littlebird's description even has any mention of emulation or retro gaming. Seems to be up again? Unless it's only one of their listings?
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Raspberry-Pi-3-Model-B-Raspberry-Pi/273112798676?hash=item3f96ca95d4:g:NzoAAOSwKjha4XUL
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Raspberry-Pi-4-Model-B-2-GB-RAM/274069627425?hash=item3fcfd2a221:g:05EAAOSwSeVdtT9Z

Could be their kit which includes a SNES style controller?
 https://www.littlebird.com.au/products/little-bird-raspberry-pi-4-complete-starter-kit-4gb

Maybe ML association with other Raspberry Pi packaged retro gaming systems with preloaded ROMs
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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2020, 04:09:35 am »
I would think it's Kodi/streaming that is auto-blacklisted, on the list of supported OS:
    Libreelec
    Open Elec
    OSMC
    Pinet
    RISC OS
    Snappy Ubuntu Core
    Ubuntu Mate
    Weather Station
    Windows IOT Core
    XBian
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2020, 11:03:39 am »
eBay does whatever they want. I was once bought Windows 7 software from a dodgy company here in Melbourne called Computer and Parts Land. The reviews are shocking... https://www.productreview.com.au/listings/computer-parts-land. When I tried to sell the it on eBay, eBay flagged it as non-genuine. Computer and Parts Land would not take it back as I had opened it. I reported the dodgy store and the dodgy product to Microsoft and eBay and nothing was done about it. I was left with an expensive lemon.
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2020, 01:16:48 pm »

If you try to sell something on eBay that influential companies are currently making money by selling, you will find that the free, open market society we live in has limitations!  :D
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2020, 04:08:17 pm »
Looks like a malicious 'Vero' report, possibly by a competitor, backed up by a person who would ban veroboard. I expect LittleBird's product range is also blocked on the basis that raspberrys are prohibited under Australia's strict biosecure import controls. Ebay has a 'team' of experts who know this stuff. Pay peanuts, get alergic monkeys.
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2020, 06:50:11 pm »
Looks like a malicious 'Vero' report, possibly by a competitor, backed up by a person who would ban veroboard. I expect LittleBird's product range is also blocked on the basis that raspberrys are prohibited under Australia's strict biosecure import controls. Ebay has a 'team' of experts who know this stuff. Pay peanuts, get alergic monkeys.

Yep.  And we thought oppressive censorship only existed in totalitarian states...
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2020, 10:31:19 pm »
Yep.  And we thought oppressive censorship only existed in totalitarian states...

In the past, the state was the only entity that could, in most cases, control publishing, access to markets, etc. Now with consolidation of Internet sites, some of them are the market (Amazon, eBay, etc.), are the press. And if someone doesn't like you, they'll get you kicked off them. The former protections should be extended into these domains ... but nobody seems to want to do this.
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2020, 11:04:10 pm »
Yep.  And we thought oppressive censorship only existed in totalitarian states...

In the past, the state was the only entity that could, in most cases, control publishing, access to markets, etc. Now with consolidation of Internet sites, some of them are the market (Amazon, eBay, etc.), are the press. And if someone doesn't like you, they'll get you kicked off them. The former protections should be extended into these domains ... but nobody seems to want to do this.

Eventually, I think governments will be forced to deal with the reality of it and enact laws that balance this out - including enabling people to have disputes settled in court, instead of by some f#ked algorithm sponsored by corporate giants for their convenience.
 

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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2020, 02:37:48 am »
Eventually, I think governments will be forced to deal with the reality of it and enact laws that balance this out - including enabling people to have disputes settled in court, instead of by some f#ked algorithm sponsored by corporate giants for their convenience.

If not actual legal courts, there needs to be some kind of court process where they are compelled to have an actual human look over it, listen to both sides and make a decision. Too many of these companies automate everything and don't even provide a way to reach a human to contest anything.
 
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Re: Ebay Australia blocks LittleBird Raspberry Pi
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2020, 03:51:15 am »
Eventually, I think governments will be forced to deal with the reality of it and enact laws that balance this out - including enabling people to have disputes settled in court, instead of by some f#ked algorithm sponsored by corporate giants for their convenience.

If not actual legal courts, there needs to be some kind of court process where they are compelled to have an actual human look over it, listen to both sides and make a decision. Too many of these companies automate everything and don't even provide a way to reach a human to contest anything.

Exactly, the corporations have effectively bought a monopoly position in a monopoly market.
 


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