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Offline Jan Audio

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2019, 10:51:17 am »
I dont think the seller changed anything, ebay did.

I think :
ebay is selling research information.
ebay changed the location and price to see if i buy instead of china.
then they sell the info from 1000 people to the news.

Am i realy crazy then ?
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2019, 11:08:08 am »
I can't see how eBay would or could change a seller's location unless you tell me the sellers are also part of some nefarious plot.

I can't see it and I see no reason why eBay would have any interest in doing it.
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2019, 11:31:32 am »
Facebook and google does.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2019, 11:56:13 am »
They change users' location and other data?  Are you sure? I have never heard of this. 
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2019, 12:17:29 pm »
Thats why i am posting.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2019, 02:56:05 pm »
They change users' location and other data?  Are you sure? I have never heard of this. 

Thats why i am posting.


With the information you have provided so far I am inclined to think you are mistaken.  I do not understand why they would change users' information and if they did there would be a huge outcry. As much as I may enjoy hating some of those big corps for now I have to go with "unconfirmed, doubtful".
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2019, 03:13:18 pm »
Thats why i am posting.

Please find a way to prove this.
eBay can't be this stupid.
It would be a huge PR disaster let alone the legal consequences.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2019, 03:19:09 pm »
The seller tells eBay where he is located, and eBay doesn't verify it.

Or, the seller has an office in Taiwan and the warehouse is in China.  Many companies have multiple locations so there is hardly anything deceptive about it.  The buyer just needs to understand that he can't trust anything he hears and only half of what he sees.  To add, don't believe anything you read either.

I'm not into rare parts (except 741 op amps) and I buy all of my components from DigiKey or Mouser.  I have enough problems getting my projects to work without having to consider fake parts.

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2019, 03:35:45 pm »
ebay is selling research information.
ebay changed the location and price to see if i buy instead of china.
then they sell the info from 1000 people to the news.

Before getting too cynical, think of possibilities. I'm no where close to enumerate all possibilities, but just a few I can think of right of my head:

1. The seller has genuinely moved -- many (young) Taiwanese are moving to the other side of the Taiwan strait to find new opportunities.
2. eBay was asked by Chinese government to accept Taiwan as part of China. This has happened a few months back on major airlines worldwide.
3. The seller was using a fake address in the first place, and corrected later.
4. eBay went out of mind and wanted to kill their PR just for giggles and a good newspaper article.

No. 1 is highly unlikely because from what I know in person, Taiwanese people only move the the other side for higher salary. Selling junk certainly doesn't make you rich and you can score higher selling from home.
No. 2 is certainly not the case here as there are still items listed as Taiwan, and since eBay gives Chinese government USD reserve, so Chinese government really doesn't have an arbitration edge.
No. 4 would just be cynical unless eBay CEO hates his company and is looking for retirement without pension.

Information is money, but there's no way eBay fabricates fake/engineered information. With ~10% cut, they make enough money not to risk their market dominance. Amazon will happily take its position if it messes up.

Facebook and google does.

They CAN validate your address, but why? If fake address doesn't essentially break the laws on eBay's side (it keep itself clear from the danger zone), why would it care?
eBay is not golden moral standard. It is a for profit company, and it does whatever it does to make money, as long as it's legal.
Overlooking its customers to abuse it to break the law while itself making money isn't really a bad idea after all as long as you can't prove it intentionally neglected such behaviors.
eBay will ban users using deceptive descriptions upon reporting, so it is not fighting the laws. It just has too many users to manage, and eBay is not a reader's club.

BTW, a single seller can have different items listed in different locations. So that's also a possibility. Keysight eBay Store is a good example, with the majority of its stuff from Malaysia, and a few from USA.
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2019, 03:51:36 pm »
How can you risk market dominance for a few cents and a fake location ?
Extra money is extra profit ( not the few cent, the information ).

I havent read ebays disclaimer either, they wont risk a thing.
Normally you wont notice such test, they can do.
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2019, 03:57:08 pm »
How can you risk market dominance for a few cents and a fake location ?

Again, it could well be the seller's fault, not eBay's.
eBay can't afford to ban people moving around or shipping "temporarily" from a collaborated warehouse.

Normally you wont notice such test, they can do.

I'm not going to argue if you still think they are doing a test. No amount of disclaimers can justify faking commerce information and potentially customs information.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2019, 04:10:19 pm »
Hi, i had this experience with ebay, i dont like to be a test subject :

Looking for rare chips.
Located cheapest in china.
I looked further, in Taiwan selling the same for a bit more ( and a different color text paint ).
I like Taiwan quality, so i order them from Taiwan ( less chance to have fakes ).

I got my chips, everything was good.

Then i saw the dutch news, it was saying :
Research shows people willing to pay more for taiwanese products if they can buy the same in china.
As usual with the dutch NPO news they dont tell the whole story, where this research is from.

Then i decided to order more of these parts, i looked into "my ebay", searched for the order so i can order the same again.Then i see the seller is located in china and the price is cheaper, i am 100% sure i ordered from Taiwan.

Ordering again from china, since no one in Taiwan sells these chips.

So i am used as test subject by ebay, i really dont like it, who can you trust ?, not ebay, facebook, or google with the psychological test they do on people.
If there is a market for these test microsoft will follow for sure, i hope not.
Where did the extra money go ?, is paypal also involved ?
What do you think of that ?, please leave a comment.
bye

I leaving a comment, you read Dutch fake news? Its all about "culture" state of mind and what kind of behavioral it creates. bye

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2019, 04:14:33 pm »
Now i understand why they use so much bubbles.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2019, 04:28:00 pm »
Now i understand why they use so much bubbles.

Exactly. And that's why people pay JD.com a premium over shopping on Taobao -- they get gently cared packages from JD's own shipping team, delivered the same day.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2019, 03:23:32 pm »
I think this isn't really happening on ebay, although there are definitely other aspects of ebay deserving of criticism.  But I find myself preferring to buy things from ebay over amazon.  Amazon tends to push glowing reviews (often created by review farms) toward the top.  And over time they have tried more and more to hide critical reviews by making them more difficult to get to, which is often where anything worth reading is hidden away from the front product pages.  Ebay's review system is crap, but at least it is very obviously so.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2019, 03:27:48 pm »
But I find myself preferring to buy things from ebay over amazon.  Amazon tends to push glowing reviews (often created by review farms) toward the top.

Oh yeah. There's definitely a problem with Amazon reviews (I've lost trust completely), as to the topic here, regarding where the items are sent from, this is even worse with Amazon. You often don't have the slightest idea.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2019, 04:11:53 pm »
Amazon is total crap, not even considering.
Now that you talk about amazon i can tell :
They told 10 years ago we going to use drones to deliver.
ALL NEWSPAPERS FRONT PAGE they got for free
I was asking about the accu...the news dont ask.
They still dont have that accus.

Why do they help these big american companys like that ?, or are they really dumb.
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2019, 05:18:35 pm »
Amazon is total crap, not even considering.
Now that you talk about amazon i can tell :
They told 10 years ago we going to use drones to deliver.
ALL NEWSPAPERS FRONT PAGE they got for free
I was asking about the accu...the news dont ask.
They still dont have that accus.

Why do they help these big american companys like that ?, or are they really dumb.

ALL NEWSPAPERS FRONT PAGE they got for free?? Really? Is that genius or what? 

And we're still waiting for some proof of your allegations in the OP because they sound like totally made up.
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2019, 12:51:20 pm »
How can i proof it they changed it,
suppose i made screenshots of everything, still dont proof nothing.
What do you expect ?, just sharing my story.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2019, 01:06:13 pm »
How can i proof it they changed it,
suppose i made screenshots of everything, still dont proof nothing.
What do you expect ?, just sharing my story.

I don't think there would be any kind of "proof" to provide here, as the location the items are shipped from is most likely NOT guaranteed by eBay's policies. (You could check this but I just doubt it.)

So the best you can do is just give negative feedback to the seller - and even that may be considered borderline, as nothing really prevents the seller from shipping from anywhere they see fit IMO (even though it can be misleading, as I said earlier...)

You could also suggest improvements to eBay. But that's probably as far as you can go here...
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2019, 02:48:54 pm »
Dont you believe these sorts of tests are happening on google and facebook ?, why not ebay.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2019, 12:21:19 am »
Dont you believe these sorts of tests are happening on google and facebook ?, why not ebay.

If I was a seller on EBay, and EBay changed my seller "location" to some other state or country for some "test" they want to run, I would be upset as a seller using and paying for their service.

The location information of the seller is always entered by the seller, and EBay has no right to change it.


 
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2019, 12:28:13 am »
The location information of the seller is always entered by the seller, and EBay has no right to change it.
Not to say different items may be drop shipped from various places by 3rd party, not seller itself.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2019, 12:36:59 am »
How can i proof it they changed it,
suppose i made screenshots of everything, still dont proof nothing.
What do you expect ?, just sharing my story.
First of all, your proof would be package it arrived in, tracking information. Secondly there is nothing to prove. Place item is dispatched from and hence location in the listing may change. Seller if free to change it, nothing wrong with it. If you are so concerned about seller being in Taiwan or China, use should look where seller is located, not item.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2019, 12:20:39 pm »
You all keep repeating.
 


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