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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2019, 01:03:41 pm »
You all keep repeating.
Because truth won't change just to cater your feelings.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2019, 08:27:50 pm »
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I like Taiwan quality, so i order them from Taiwan ( less chance to have fakes ).
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I find "Taiwan quality" ironic since it's my understanding it was the epicenter of the capacitor plague circa 2000...

 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2019, 08:52:22 pm »
Well, I thought Taiwan had kind of become the low-cost manufacturer for China, so making it a mark of quality is indeed funny.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2019, 12:14:25 am »
 I have ordered a few things off ebay with "UK only" check box set.
When they arrive they have "Made in China" on them.
So might as well have bought them cheaper from China !
Quite a lot of Chinese buyers say they are in the UK when they arent.
Some are a bit cleverer and have a warehouse in the UK.

I bought some transistors from CHina that lasted until I unplugged my soldering iron.
The glitch down the maisn got into the amp and blew up teh transistors.
I replaced the transistors with some from RS Components who are a reputable company and despite me trying very hard they wouldnt fail off mains noise.

My general opinion is most items from China are junk. I now only buy empty PCB's from them as they seem to be good quality and very low price.



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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2019, 01:23:55 am »
It's not just this kind of thing. Over on a gaming forum for the Call of Cthulhu system, there's a thread discussing an eBay seller who is selling pirated copies of old scenarios and apparently eBay has been contacted several times to point out what is going on, but they've still not taken the sale down.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2019, 01:10:09 pm »
I find "Taiwan quality" ironic since it's my understanding it was the epicenter of the capacitor plague circa 2000...

Stealing is bad.

Well, I thought Taiwan had kind of become the low-cost manufacturer for China, so making it a mark of quality is indeed funny.

I dont know, i still like Taiwan quality better for anything because they dont copy like China.
I had a helicopter from taiwan, the china clone was not so good.

If you can choose oscilloscope exactly the same thing, 1 made in china, 1 made in taiwan, you would be dumb to buy the china ?

Is there 1 thing china does not fake ?, its the : "made in china" logo.
If they smart they say "made in taiwan"
« Last Edit: October 10, 2019, 01:11:41 pm by Jan Audio »
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2019, 05:04:22 pm »
I find "Taiwan quality" ironic since it's my understanding it was the epicenter of the capacitor plague circa 2000...

Stealing is bad.

Well, I thought Taiwan had kind of become the low-cost manufacturer for China, so making it a mark of quality is indeed funny.

I dont know, i still like Taiwan quality better for anything because they dont copy like China.
I had a helicopter from taiwan, the china clone was not so good.

If you can choose oscilloscope exactly the same thing, 1 made in china, 1 made in taiwan, you would be dumb to buy the china ?

Is there 1 thing china does not fake ?, its the : "made in china" logo.
If they smart they say "made in taiwan"

Jan, I agree, "Stealing is bad."  ... There ought to be a law against it.

I don't totally disagree with your strategy.  Buying from eBay/Asia is mine-field regarding quality.  It's good to develop rules of thumb if they work for you.  I also recognize that disreputable vendors introduce uncertainty by establishing distribution points not only in Taiwan/Hong Kong but also in western countries.

I think some of the big tech giants can foster an environment of corruption - either by intention or lack of sound over-sight.  Profits take priority over transparency and fair business practices until the intervention of government or significant consumer back lash. 

Now lets also look at Western Union, a company over 150 years old.  They provide needed services regarding money transfer.  However they've been the "bag-man" for unimaginable numbers of con-men.  Once the cash is transferred to the criminals there is little recourse in getting it back.   

Regarding 0scilloscope purchase - can you name a Taiwan 0scilloscope that isn't 50-100% actually made in the mainland?
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2019, 12:28:37 pm »
No example, sorry.
All scopes from taiwan are different then china scopes also.
Just wanted to have a example of a product people buying in this forum.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2019, 01:14:06 pm »
No example, sorry.
All scopes from taiwan are different then china scopes also.
Just wanted to have a example of a product people buying in this forum.
Jan, Let me see if I got this straight...

"ALL scopes from taiwan are different then china scopes" but you have NO examples.

OK, that sounds good to me... ;D
« Last Edit: October 11, 2019, 01:21:50 pm by rastro »
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2019, 01:54:46 pm »
Make the example : a PC.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2019, 05:04:03 pm »
Make the example : a PC.

... a Pointless Conversation   :popcorn:

bye  :)
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2019, 07:27:08 pm »
Jan, Let me see if I got this straight...

"ALL scopes from taiwan are different then china scopes" but you have NO examples.

OK, that sounds good to me... ;D

Just the same as with his claims that eBay changes the seller information without the seller's knowing. I have a feeling he lives in a state of confusion/conspiracy. Not worth engaging IMHO.
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #62 on: October 12, 2019, 01:20:01 pm »
Wrong subject.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #63 on: October 12, 2019, 02:45:59 pm »
I personally don't know of scopes from tawainese companies. Scope made (manufactured) in Taiwan, yes. Often for chinese companies.  ::)

So if it's just a matter of manufacturing, I'm not sure taiwanese plants do things better than chinese ones; they'll usually just do according to the odering company's requirements, and often cheaper. Do they manage to do both cheaper and better? I don't know. Show us proof.

And now if you actually know of 100% taiwanese scopes, please show us some as well.

 
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2019, 06:43:59 pm »
And now if you actually know of 100% taiwanese scopes, please show us some as well.
GW Instek is Taiwanese company. Some of their stuff is produced in China, not locally in Taiwan though. In any case, outsourcing production to Taiwan from China is rare, except fabless semiconductor production. It's almost always the other way around. Design in Taiwan, production in China. Why would you make production of cheap stuff where it's more expensive?
For example most computer component manufacturers have Taiwan headquarters. Also worlds largest and probably most advanced semiconductor foundry TSMC is Taiwan based as well.
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Well, I thought Taiwan had kind of become the low-cost manufacturer for China, so making it a mark of quality is indeed funny.
:palm: Average income in Taiwan is many times higher than in China.
Nowadays low cost are places like Vietnam or Cambodia. Look where your printer is manufactured, you might be surprised.
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #65 on: October 13, 2019, 09:53:01 am »
Many Taiwanese companies actually do their manufacturing in China. Pretty much like the rest of the world only much more. The economy of Taiwan is very closely tied to the economy of China which, IMHO, is a good thing because it means it is not in the interests of either side to upset the status quo. Hopefully their political paths and interests will converge over time and there can be a peaceful and advantageous reunification.
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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #66 on: October 19, 2019, 11:53:04 pm »
ive had it before where ive ordered an item from a uk only search,then several weeks later asked the guy the uk postcode where it was beeing shipped from,he couldnt provide it!,i complained to ebay about it,anyway i got refunded,the parts finaly arrived,all china post markings,just another asshole saying there from the uk,hope it taught him a lesson!,makes me puke!!.
 

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Re: Ebay is corrupt
« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2019, 02:48:00 pm »
I was thinking for PSU :
With the ender 3 pro you get a Taiwan PSU, because it dont catch fire.
You cant convince me Taiwan is cheaper quality, its better.
Meanwell brand is better then chinese brand.
 


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