Ebay is corrupt

[soldar]

They change users' location and other data?  Are you sure? I have never heard of this. 

Thats why i am posting.

With the information you have provided so far I am inclined to think you are mistaken.  I do not understand why they would change users' information and if they did there would be a huge outcry. As much as I may enjoy hating some of those big corps for now I have to go with "unconfirmed, doubtful".

[rstofer]

The seller tells eBay where he is located, and eBay doesn't verify it.

Or, the seller has an office in Taiwan and the warehouse is in China.  Many companies have multiple locations so there is hardly anything deceptive about it.  The buyer just needs to understand that he can't trust anything he hears and only half of what he sees.  To add, don't believe anything you read either.

I'm not into rare parts (except 741 op amps) and I buy all of my components from DigiKey or Mouser.  I have enough problems getting my projects to work without having to consider fake parts.

To quote Lily Tomlin:

No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up.

[Jan Audio]

How can you risk market dominance for a few cents and a fake location ?
Extra money is extra profit ( not the few cent, the information ).

I havent read ebays disclaimer either, they wont risk a thing.
Normally you wont notice such test, they can do.

[MT]

Hi, i had this experience with ebay, i dont like to be a test subject :

Looking for rare chips.
Located cheapest in china.
I looked further, in Taiwan selling the same for a bit more ( and a different color text paint ).
I like Taiwan quality, so i order them from Taiwan ( less chance to have fakes ).

I got my chips, everything was good.

Then i saw the dutch news, it was saying :
Research shows people willing to pay more for taiwanese products if they can buy the same in china.
As usual with the dutch NPO news they dont tell the whole story, where this research is from.

Then i decided to order more of these parts, i looked into "my ebay", searched for the order so i can order the same again.Then i see the seller is located in china and the price is cheaper, i am 100% sure i ordered from Taiwan.

Ordering again from china, since no one in Taiwan sells these chips.

So i am used as test subject by ebay, i really dont like it, who can you trust ?, not ebay, facebook, or google with the psychological test they do on people.
If there is a market for these test microsoft will follow for sure, i hope not.
Where did the extra money go ?, is paypal also involved ?
What do you think of that ?, please leave a comment.
bye

I leaving a comment, you read Dutch fake news? Its all about "culture" state of mind and what kind of behavioral it creates. bye

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[Jan Audio]

Now i understand why they use so much bubbles.

[scatterandfocus]

I think this isn't really happening on ebay, although there are definitely other aspects of ebay deserving of criticism.  But I find myself preferring to buy things from ebay over amazon.  Amazon tends to push glowing reviews (often created by review farms) toward the top.  And over time they have tried more and more to hide critical reviews by making them more difficult to get to, which is often where anything worth reading is hidden away from the front product pages.  Ebay's review system is crap, but at least it is very obviously so.

[SiliconWizard]

But I find myself preferring to buy things from ebay over amazon.  Amazon tends to push glowing reviews (often created by review farms) toward the top.

Oh yeah. There's definitely a problem with Amazon reviews (I've lost trust completely), as to the topic here, regarding where the items are sent from, this is even worse with Amazon. You often don't have the slightest idea.

[Jan Audio]

Amazon is total crap, not even considering.
Now that you talk about amazon i can tell :
They told 10 years ago we going to use drones to deliver.
ALL NEWSPAPERS FRONT PAGE they got for free
I was asking about the accu...the news dont ask.
They still dont have that accus.

Why do they help these big american companys like that ?, or are they really dumb.

[soldar]

Amazon is total crap, not even considering.
Now that you talk about amazon i can tell :
They told 10 years ago we going to use drones to deliver.
ALL NEWSPAPERS FRONT PAGE they got for free
I was asking about the accu...the news dont ask.
They still dont have that accus.

Why do they help these big american companys like that ?, or are they really dumb.

ALL NEWSPAPERS FRONT PAGE they got for free?? Really? Is that genius or what? 

And we're still waiting for some proof of your allegations in the OP because they sound like totally made up.

[Jan Audio]

How can i proof it they changed it,
suppose i made screenshots of everything, still dont proof nothing.
What do you expect ?, just sharing my story.

[SiliconWizard]

How can i proof it they changed it,
suppose i made screenshots of everything, still dont proof nothing.
What do you expect ?, just sharing my story.

I don't think there would be any kind of "proof" to provide here, as the location the items are shipped from is most likely NOT guaranteed by eBay's policies. (You could check this but I just doubt it.)

So the best you can do is just give negative feedback to the seller - and even that may be considered borderline, as nothing really prevents the seller from shipping from anywhere they see fit IMO (even though it can be misleading, as I said earlier...)

You could also suggest improvements to eBay. But that's probably as far as you can go here...

[Jan Audio]

Dont you believe these sorts of tests are happening on google and facebook ?, why not ebay.

[windsmurf]

Dont you believe these sorts of tests are happening on google and facebook ?, why not ebay.

If I was a seller on EBay, and EBay changed my seller "location" to some other state or country for some "test" they want to run, I would be upset as a seller using and paying for their service.

The location information of the seller is always entered by the seller, and EBay has no right to change it.

[wraper]

The location information of the seller is always entered by the seller, and EBay has no right to change it.

Not to say different items may be drop shipped from various places by 3rd party, not seller itself.

[wraper]

How can i proof it they changed it,
suppose i made screenshots of everything, still dont proof nothing.
What do you expect ?, just sharing my story.

First of all, your proof would be package it arrived in, tracking information. Secondly there is nothing to prove. Place item is dispatched from and hence location in the listing may change. Seller if free to change it, nothing wrong with it. If you are so concerned about seller being in Taiwan or China, use should look where seller is located, not item.

[Jan Audio]

You all keep repeating.

[wraper]

You all keep repeating.

Because truth won't change just to cater your feelings.

[rastro]

...
I like Taiwan quality, so i order them from Taiwan ( less chance to have fakes ).
...

I find "Taiwan quality" ironic since it's my understanding it was the epicenter of the capacitor plague circa 2000...

[SiliconWizard]

Well, I thought Taiwan had kind of become the low-cost manufacturer for China, so making it a mark of quality is indeed funny.

[nigelwright7557]

 I have ordered a few things off ebay with "UK only" check box set.
When they arrive they have "Made in China" on them.
So might as well have bought them cheaper from China !
Quite a lot of Chinese buyers say they are in the UK when they arent.
Some are a bit cleverer and have a warehouse in the UK.

I bought some transistors from CHina that lasted until I unplugged my soldering iron.
The glitch down the maisn got into the amp and blew up teh transistors.
I replaced the transistors with some from RS Components who are a reputable company and despite me trying very hard they wouldnt fail off mains noise.

My general opinion is most items from China are junk. I now only buy empty PCB's from them as they seem to be good quality and very low price.

[Deodand2014]

It's not just this kind of thing. Over on a gaming forum for the Call of Cthulhu system, there's a thread discussing an eBay seller who is selling pirated copies of old scenarios and apparently eBay has been contacted several times to point out what is going on, but they've still not taken the sale down.

[Jan Audio]

I find "Taiwan quality" ironic since it's my understanding it was the epicenter of the capacitor plague circa 2000...

Stealing is bad.

Well, I thought Taiwan had kind of become the low-cost manufacturer for China, so making it a mark of quality is indeed funny.

I dont know, i still like Taiwan quality better for anything because they dont copy like China.
I had a helicopter from taiwan, the china clone was not so good.

If you can choose oscilloscope exactly the same thing, 1 made in china, 1 made in taiwan, you would be dumb to buy the china ?

Is there 1 thing china does not fake ?, its the : "made in china" logo.
If they smart they say "made in taiwan"

[rastro]

I find "Taiwan quality" ironic since it's my understanding it was the epicenter of the capacitor plague circa 2000...

Stealing is bad.

Well, I thought Taiwan had kind of become the low-cost manufacturer for China, so making it a mark of quality is indeed funny.

I dont know, i still like Taiwan quality better for anything because they dont copy like China.
I had a helicopter from taiwan, the china clone was not so good.

If you can choose oscilloscope exactly the same thing, 1 made in china, 1 made in taiwan, you would be dumb to buy the china ?

Is there 1 thing china does not fake ?, its the : "made in china" logo.
If they smart they say "made in taiwan"

Jan, I agree, "Stealing is bad."  ... There ought to be a law against it.

I don't totally disagree with your strategy.  Buying from eBay/Asia is mine-field regarding quality.  It's good to develop rules of thumb if they work for you.  I also recognize that disreputable vendors introduce uncertainty by establishing distribution points not only in Taiwan/Hong Kong but also in western countries.

I think some of the big tech giants can foster an environment of corruption - either by intention or lack of sound over-sight.  Profits take priority over transparency and fair business practices until the intervention of government or significant consumer back lash. 

Now lets also look at Western Union, a company over 150 years old.  They provide needed services regarding money transfer.  However they've been the "bag-man" for unimaginable numbers of con-men.  Once the cash is transferred to the criminals there is little recourse in getting it back.   

Regarding 0scilloscope purchase - can you name a Taiwan 0scilloscope that isn't 50-100% actually made in the mainland?

[Jan Audio]

No example, sorry.
All scopes from taiwan are different then china scopes also.
Just wanted to have a example of a product people buying in this forum.

[rastro]

No example, sorry.
All scopes from taiwan are different then china scopes also.
Just wanted to have a example of a product people buying in this forum.

Jan, Let me see if I got this straight...

"ALL scopes from taiwan are different then china scopes" but you have NO examples.

OK, that sounds good to me...