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--- Quote from: SteveyG on September 10, 2016, 09:19:12 am --- --- Quote from: IanB on September 09, 2016, 03:36:05 pm ---But an MEng first degree is not equivalent to a MSc postgraduate degree. --- End quote --- In what way? --- End quote --- An MEng still allows you to stay generic because the modules are electives and can be unrelated to each other or part of different disciplines. Examples are control theory and microwave communication. An Msc restricts your electives to modules that are related to the discipline. It's targeted more towards a specific area but doesn't ask you to research new areas to advance the field like a PhD. |
| VK3DRB:
The danger with too much specialisation is you learn more and more about less and less, until eventually you will know everything about nothing. :-DD |
| Zero999:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on September 09, 2016, 08:20:18 pm ---The main thing which annoys me (and I'm not implying you have this view) is statements to the effect that "nurses claiming there's no benefit to being a doctor, and that doctors are impractical and useless". Both doctors and nurses are necessary; neither is sufficient. --- End quote --- Well I agree with you about doctors and nurses but think the analogy is totally invalid as far as engineering is concerned. Perhaps it was true 30 years ago or is still the case in very large organisations and factories but not in the places I've worked. In a relatively small organisation, it makes no sense to employ a technician and an engineer. It makes far more sense to find someone who's highly skilled both in theory and practically and can do both. |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: Hero999 on September 10, 2016, 08:02:32 pm --- --- Quote from: tggzzz on September 09, 2016, 08:20:18 pm ---The main thing which annoys me (and I'm not implying you have this view) is statements to the effect that "nurses claiming there's no benefit to being a doctor, and that doctors are impractical and useless". Both doctors and nurses are necessary; neither is sufficient. --- End quote --- Well I agree with you about doctors and nurses but think the analogy is totally invalid as far as engineering is concerned. Perhaps it was true 30 years ago or is still the case in very large organisations and factories but not in the places I've worked. In a relatively small organisation, it makes no sense to employ a technician and an engineer. It makes far more sense to find someone who's highly skilled both in theory and practically and can do both. --- End quote --- That presumes a technician is capable of doing an engineer's job, and vice versa. While there can be overlap, in general it isn't true. I, for example, can solder, but not well enough for production quality. OTOH, I can find a way of making an optical receiver with 180bB dynamic range from jellybean low tolerance components, etc etc. That presumes there isn't enough work for two people. That presumes people all have the same personalities and skills. They don't. A classic mistake is to try to make a team with everybody having the same team role; see Belbin's work for why that is suboptimum. So yes, it is always being wary of assuming your experience is generally true. Usually a subset of one person's experience corresponds to a subset of situations. |
| nfmax:
--- Quote from: tggzzz on September 09, 2016, 08:20:18 pm ---It seems not much has changed in 30 years, and that there is broad agreement about a degree vs an HND. One anecdote is that I remember a 2nd year maths student seeing our maths lectures, and being flabbergasted that we were covering much the same topics as he was! The end-of-year exams started "full marks will be obtained for answers to about six questions"; the lecturer wasn't too certain how much we could have assimilated! Bloody hard work :) --- End quote --- Second year maths! I remember it well - "Can you get a move on, please - I'm catching up" |
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