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Education level required for employment as EE
setq:
HP sounded clued. Congratulations!
--- Quote from: EmmanuelFaure on September 15, 2016, 03:02:38 am ---I observed that >95% of books about management are utter crap (Lean, Team building, 6 sigma, HR...
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Six sigma victim here. Couldn't agree more.
I got dragged into the mandatory process remodelling of a large defence company starting many years ago that was based around that. Nothing but complete unadulterated bollocks. The ethics section was comedic. It was taught with PowerPoint and an American guy who had clearly been doing copious amounts of speed or something. He was way too cheery and being British, we weren't having any of that shit. We all got a nice certificate with Dilbert on it at the end that we had to print ourselves to stick on our cube dividers over the pictures of missiles and bombs we made to kill people with and the surveillance products we made to enslave the ones we didn't manage to kill, whilst being careful not to exceed our free printing allowance or we'd have to fill in a form, on paper, to request more paper. It merely proved we could navigate ten multiple choice questions by expending the least amount of effort so we could crawl to the canteen and get some more subsidised shit coffee so we could self-flagellate some more whilst dreaming the weekend and escaping the compound where we were held prisoner with no natural light.
And that's corporate culture :)
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: setq on September 15, 2016, 07:40:43 am ---HP sounded clued. Congratulations!
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It was. I decided to leave when Carly was in full swing, "doubling down" and all that crap.
I've seen reports (probably on the internal usenet) that she had a meeting with Bill. Bill said nothing until the end, when he said "get me out of here". I wish I could find some confirmation of that.
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--- Quote from: EmmanuelFaure on September 15, 2016, 03:02:38 am ---I observed that >95% of books about management are utter crap (Lean, Team building, 6 sigma, HR...
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... canteen and get some more subsidised shit coffee so we could self-flagellate some more whilst dreaming the weekend and escaping the compound where we were held prisoner with no natural light.
And that's corporate culture :)
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Don't overreach; it casts doubts on your other statements. Most of the companies I've worked for have been very different. Of course, during the university milkround I visited 12 companies - and chose to avoid GEC/Marconi and similar.
HP used to have suckling pig, frogs legs, and many other very nice items on the menu. The Grenoble factory canteen was better than most restaurants, with fresh oysters and racks of wine.
At another place, I've known people that have booked 25 hours on a timesheet for one day ("I went in at 9 on Saturday and left at 10 on Sunday"), and have gone in to work on a project on Christmas Day.
An engineer should always have a mistress. That way they can tell the mistress they are with the wife, the wife they are with the mistress - and go and have some fun in the lab.
setq:
My statements are pretty run of the mill in the UK. We like to complain :)
To be fair my last two appointments have been pretty good. I work from home now and we have a fairly open work schedule so there is plenty of opportunity for personal development, on topic of course. People have lots of places to ask questions about what to expect out of education and life these days. Back then we just had to work off poorly taught assumptions and assume the bad stuff was normal.
Definitely agree with your last statement :)
CJay:
Now after reading all of that, I need to work out if it's worth my doing a degree at age (nearly) *cough* 48.
I don't know if it'd be worth the effort from a career point of view or just for my own satisfaction.
It'd have to be the OU as well...
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: CJay on September 15, 2016, 11:32:24 am ---Now after reading all of that, I need to work out if it's worth my doing a degree at age (nearly) *cough* 48.
I don't know if it'd be worth the effort from a career point of view
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Probably not. You are, as someone I know found on an agent's copy of their CV, "PSBD". That's "past sell by date". In some ways we were glad, because that meant he was able to be employed by my department :)
--- Quote --- or just for my own satisfaction.
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Quite possibly. I know someone your age that has just started an astrophysics course.
--- Quote ---It'd have to be the OU as well...
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There are many many distance learning courses available, of course. Most big unis do them now.
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