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Which browser do you mostly use when visiting EEVblog forums?

Mozilla Firefox
51 (40.8%)
Google Chrome
42 (33.6%)
Safari
12 (9.6%)
Opera
5 (4%)
Microsoft Internet Explorer
8 (6.4%)
Microsoft Edge
3 (2.4%)
Netscape Navigator/Communicator
1 (0.8%)
Android Native Browser
0 (0%)
Lynx
0 (0%)
Other (Not listed)
3 (2.4%)

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Offline Halcyon

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EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« on: January 23, 2017, 07:28:36 am »
Dave, just for fun, I was wondering if you logged statistics on the browsers/operating systems people use to view your site/forum?

Given that you have mostly a technically-minded user base, I'd be interested in seeing the "spread" of technologies in use out there.

Failing that, I've added a non-scientific poll.
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2017, 07:37:56 am »
wow, internet explorer?
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2017, 07:43:13 am »
wow, internet explorer?

Yep.

Still works for 99% of sites I visit and I can tweak the settings to my heart's content. Why change? My fall-back browser is Firefox.
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2017, 09:17:46 am »
Interesting question.  :-/O

Mine reports for Jan 17:
Chrome 45%
Firefox 18%
MS IE 15%
Safari 11%
Mozilla 10%

OS is more interesting:
Win 78%
Mac 13%
Linux 5%
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2017, 09:44:08 am »
For the forum:
 
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2017, 09:45:17 am »
For eevblog.com
 
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2017, 06:14:27 pm »
These sorts of stats are always interesting to read. I just looked at my site's stats for 2016, and IE was the most popular browser overall ???, with versions 6 and 11 the most popular. Firefox and Chrome had a significant percentage of users. 0.8% of page views were from Netscape, with most of that being versions 0.6, 0.95, and 3. Others I'd never heard of (with very small numbers) included Strata, Android Browser, BlackBerry, Nokia Browser, NetNewsWire, and Sony/Ericsson Browser. Wget, Lynx, and Bon Echo also made an appearance.

 8)

Personally I'd have thought that Firefox would be more popular with EEVBlog viewers.
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2017, 06:57:08 pm »
Odd statistics. The numbers for Safari is a surprise.

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2017, 07:19:32 pm »
@tautech
What's the difference between Firefox and Mozilla? What are the other 4% of OS used?
Sorry, don't know. They're reported as 2 different browsers.

Other OS's 2% and some # rounding.  ;)

Haven't got the quality of Stats diagnosis that Dave has.  :(
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2017, 04:09:39 am »
I actually use three different browsers (IE, Chrome and Firefox, the first two on Windows, the latter under Linux), depends on the machine and OS I happen to be using.  I haven't found a perfect browser - they all foul up somewhere or other.  And all have features to the UI that I like and dislike.

If I were designing Web pages I might have a strong opinion, but for what I do there isn't really a compelling reason to choose. 
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2017, 04:12:23 am »
Odd statistics. The numbers for Safari is a surprise.

Yep, for me too.
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2017, 04:15:02 am »
Youtube device usage stats

 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2017, 04:16:09 am »
"Computer" stats broken down:

 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2017, 04:39:17 am »
For the forum:


That Safari and Firefox numbers look so unexpected I'd be questioning if there is something wrong with the data, especially that firefox figure, a 7x difference between eevblog.com and the forums for firefox users... that seems fishy.

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2017, 05:55:55 am »
That Safari and Firefox numbers look so unexpected I'd be questioning if there is something wrong with the data, especially that firefox figure, a 7x difference between eevblog.com and the forums for firefox users... that seems fishy.

I don't disagree. Both come from Google Analytics
 

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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2017, 05:59:33 am »
That Safari and Firefox numbers look so unexpected I'd be questioning if there is something wrong with the data, especially that firefox figure, a 7x difference between eevblog.com and the forums for firefox users... that seems fishy.

I don't disagree. Both come from Google Analytics

It's worth noting that a significant percentage of users will actively block Google Analytics. Especially Firefox users.
 
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2017, 07:20:12 am »
What's the difference between Firefox and Mozilla?

Mozilla here refers to the web browser in the Mozilla Application Suite, a set of Internet applications based on the Netscape Communicator suite (web browser, email client, calendar, HTML editor, etc.).  The suite lives on today as the SeaMonkey community project.

The Mozilla Application Suite was the foundation for the standalone web browser, Mozilla Firefox, the standalone email client, Mozilla Thunderbird, and other applications.
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2017, 11:21:18 pm »
That Safari and Firefox numbers look so unexpected I'd be questioning if there is something wrong with the data, especially that firefox figure, a 7x difference between eevblog.com and the forums for firefox users... that seems fishy.

I don't disagree. Both come from Google Analytics

It's worth noting that a significant percentage of users will actively block Google Analytics. Especially Firefox users.

Adblock Plus will block Analytics and it is installed on a lot of Chrome browsers - like 40 million or so...
https://www.quantable.com/analytics/how-many-users-block-google-analytics/
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2017, 11:23:06 am »
wow, in OS MS is winning big time. I guess not many tech guys watch eevblog's youtube channel on their smart tvs or cellphones  ;)
As for Linux, absence of worldwide marketing is bulling it back. no one buys a pc or laptop with linux os by accident,,, has to ask for it. not all users are techies, when people spend money on a pc they usually ask about for warranty, and it's not common to buy a pc with warranty without pre-installed os.
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2017, 12:24:59 pm »
Amazon Silk (never even heard of it) is higher than IE usage on the forums? :o

I block Google Analytics too (sorry, if you want stats then look at your server logs, they'll be far more accurate and private), as well as a bunch of other tracking crap. I use IE, Opera, and Firefox, with occasional Chromium for sites that don't work with any of the others.
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2017, 05:43:06 pm »
The remarkable differences between the poll results and the Google analytics results says something funny is going on.  Either someone is lying, or information is being modified as it bounces around the web.  While one can imagine reasons why the poll would be inaccurate (people wanting to give the "cool" answer, people just playing with/trolling the system), it seems that Occam's razor tells the answer, that Google Analytics is cooking the books.
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2017, 06:54:19 pm »
I imagine the high safari numbers are from people on iPhones & iPads? On my Windows PC I typically use Chrome but I also browse the forum from my phone (Safari). I voted Chrome in the poll.
 
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2017, 10:44:48 pm »
Amazon Silk (never even heard of it) is higher than IE usage on the forums? :o


Silk is a webkit based browser bundled with Amazon tablets (Fire, etc)
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2017, 10:47:26 pm »
What's the difference between Firefox and Mozilla?

Mozilla here refers to the web browser in the Mozilla Application Suite, a set of Internet applications based on the Netscape Communicator suite (web browser, email client, calendar, HTML editor, etc.).  The suite lives on today as the SeaMonkey community project.

The Mozilla Application Suite was the foundation for the standalone web browser, Mozilla Firefox, the standalone email client, Mozilla Thunderbird, and other applications.

I wonder where palemoon falls.  Does it show as mozilla or firefox
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2017, 10:50:07 pm »
I wonder where palemoon falls.  Does it show as mozilla or firefox

It depends how it identifies itself to servers. It's based on Firefox.
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2017, 06:20:30 pm »
I use Pale Moon. I know it's based on Firefox,  but I voted "Other".
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2017, 07:26:56 pm »
As noone voted for lynx in the poll, I just thought I'd post this message from lynx for the sake of it :).

The forum doesn't seem to render very nicely in Lynx, but it is usable.
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2017, 10:43:13 pm »
I've used elinks for the past several years instead of lynx.  Sadly no Windows version, but It has tabs, colour and a whole bunch more.

I found it especially useful on an aeroplane a year or two back.  The on-board wifi had a payment process that required checking your email for verification, so they provided a small amount of data (a few MB) for free.   That tiny amount of data lasted me the whole trip :)  It was quite unstable too, so using a text-only web browser helped a lot.  I'm actually not sure how people would have expected to be able to access something like Gmail without the whole process breaking due to connections failing.

This is the forum frontpage in elinks:


Topics themselves are less friendly to navigate, as half of the vertical space is used up by the info about each user that we normally see to the left of each post:


Oh, and I'm the sole person that voted 'Netscape Navigator' in the poll >:D  I use Seamonkey, and I thought this might be the closest match.



Does anyone else here use a less popular browser?

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2017, 12:28:45 am »
I've been using Pale Moon for a couple years now. It's based on Firefox but without the ridiculous rapid release cycle or constant UI changes and vanishing features.
 

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« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2017, 01:49:24 am »
You should have an entry from OWB now.
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2017, 04:28:38 am »
I've been using Pale Moon for a couple years now. It's based on Firefox but without the ridiculous rapid release cycle or constant UI changes and vanishing features.

I used FirefoxESR just to keep the upgrade releases to a minimum, but then they went to that "australis" interface and started removing much of the customizing ability, so I switched to Pale Moon.

Unfortunately Pale Moon (and apparently soon other browsers) have dropped support for Ghostery and some other add ons and I've yet to find replacements.
 

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« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2017, 07:37:41 pm »
Unfortunately Pale Moon (and apparently soon other browsers) have dropped support for Ghostery and some other add ons and I've yet to find replacements.

I've been using uBlock Origin on Firefox. See if that still works on Pale Moon.
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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2017, 11:09:23 pm »
Biggest reason why I dumped Firefox was the rapid release cycle. I got so tired of getting an update notification what seemed like every few days, and each time it would inevitably break half my extensions and/or remove some option I was using. Firefox became a 2nd rate clone of Chrome, and if I wanted that I would just use Chrome.
 

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« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2017, 11:57:42 pm »
Thats what the ESR is for.
 

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« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2017, 12:04:56 am »
Biggest reason why I dumped Firefox was the rapid release cycle. I got so tired of getting an update notification what seemed like every few days, and each time it would inevitably break half my extensions and/or remove some option I was using. Firefox became a 2nd rate clone of Chrome, and if I wanted that I would just use Chrome.
Yup, FF has been terrible with the updates and plugins during some period, but it's better now. Not great, but better.

I am surprised with Opera, started using it as a secondary option about half a year ago (developer version), and it is looking nice. Love the free VPN option.
 

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« Reply #35 on: January 28, 2017, 01:03:32 am »
The ESR did help, but then they implemented the Australis UI and I jumped ship. It became clear Mozilla had lost their direction, they were ignoring the users and blindly chasing Chrome.
 

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« Reply #36 on: January 28, 2017, 01:10:15 am »
The ESR did help, but then they implemented the Australis UI and I jumped ship. It became clear Mozilla had lost their direction, they were ignoring the users and blindly chasing Chrome.

Yeah, that was particularly annoying. Fortunately, some plugins came out to take back control of many aspects of the UI. Otherwise, I'd probably have jumped ship, too.
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« Reply #37 on: January 28, 2017, 01:11:10 am »
Classic theme restorer helps.  My biggest issue is the default of yahoo.  Every time someone is complaining about malware I used to tell them to download firefox but now I either have to not recommend it or tell them to download it but caution them that their default search is a malware supported one so they need to change it which looks pretty bad.
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #38 on: January 28, 2017, 07:39:33 pm »
Nice thing is that Mint makes the default search engine Duckduckgo, which is nice. As well they wait for the releases to become stable before they roll out a new one, no automuckdate there, they just drop in a whole new one, and when I restart it eventually it will be the new one.  At least there the addons have already updated to work with this slightly outdated version, and it is almost seamless.  Seems to only change on a major version change, now sitting at 51.
 

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Re: EEVblog forum browser/OS statistics?
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2017, 02:45:41 am »

Does anyone else here use a less popular browser?

Not often but does emacs eww count as less popular?
 


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