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EEVblog&some other YouTube channels, no longer free, at best (HD) quality levels
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Veteran68:
There is a difference between ads and in-video sponsors.

YT Premium (or an ad blocker, at least up until recently) will block the general YT ads that play before/during/after videos. Those ads generate impressions that the content creator gets a cut of (if only a penny per 100 impressions or something like that). You block those ads, or have Premium, the creator no longer receives that bit of income. My understanding was the YT shared a cut of Premium revenue with content creators to make up for that ad revenue loss, but I don't know details. I'm sure Dave could fill us in.

If a content creator has a sponsorship deal where they mention or shill products inside their video, then that's beyond the scope of Google and YouTube and is an agreement between the creator and the sponsor. Has nothing to do with Google/YT ads and what Premium does for you.

For me, Premium is worth cutting out all the annoying YT ads. For the creators I follow (and it's a lot, across a variety of subjects), the ones who are sponsored are not obnoxious about it, it's typically relevant to the content, and I can always fast forward past the ad portion since it's just part of the video -- unlike YT ads.
asmi:

--- Quote from: langwadt on August 10, 2023, 07:32:09 pm ---nothing is free, and if no one wants to waste their time watching ads companies will have to find another way to pay the bills
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+1 Also storage space and bandwidth cost something too. As the saying goes, if you don't pay for something, that means you are the product being sold.


--- Quote from: langwadt on August 10, 2023, 07:32:09 pm ---afaiu YT pays creators more for a premium view than for a free viewer watching the ads, I'm sure Dave will know for certain

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I seem to recall he even said so in one of his videos. As I understand, YT allocates a certain portion of the monthly fee for creators and distributes it between creators you've watched weighted by the time you spent watching their content.
Kim Christensen:

--- Quote from: Veteran68 on August 10, 2023, 08:00:08 pm ---For me, Premium is worth cutting out all the annoying YT ads. For the creators I follow (and it's a lot, across a variety of subjects), the ones who are sponsored are not obnoxious about it, it's typically relevant to the content, and I can always fast forward past the ad portion since it's just part of the video -- unlike YT ads.
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Yup... I prefer the in video product plug by the creator. Especially when they place a distinctive graphic at the end of the spiel. Then it's an easy matter of doing a quick mouse-over of the timeline and instantly skipping to the end of the ad.
thm_w:

--- Quote from: Veteran68 on August 10, 2023, 08:00:08 pm ---For me, Premium is worth cutting out all the annoying YT ads. For the creators I follow (and it's a lot, across a variety of subjects), the ones who are sponsored are not obnoxious about it, it's typically relevant to the content, and I can always fast forward past the ad portion since it's just part of the video -- unlike YT ads.

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Sponsor block: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-youtube/mnjggcdmjocbbbhaepdhchncahnbgone
I don't watch ads or sponsor spots. If you want you can just get it to highlight the timeline and not skip the segment as well.

I think my patreon bill is $50/month or so though.

edit: someone measured the difference here
"not being able to edit comments is annoying.. its actually 10.9MB for regular 1080p and 25.6MB for premium 1080p"
So for that specific video it was about 141kB/s vs 332kB/s ?
MK14:

--- Quote from: thm_w on August 10, 2023, 09:21:41 pm ---Sponsor block: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sponsorblock-for-youtube/mnjggcdmjocbbbhaepdhchncahnbgone
I don't watch ads or sponsor spots. If you want you can just get it to highlight the timeline and not skip the segment as well.

I think my patreon bill is $50/month or so though.

edit: someone measured the difference here
"not being able to edit comments is annoying.. its actually 10.9MB for regular 1080p and 25.6MB for premium 1080p"
So for that specific video it was about 141kB/s vs 332kB/s ?

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Thanks, that is amazing.

I didn't even realize, sponsored ad removal, was a thing, so wouldn't have sought it out.  Now that I know it exists, it is food for thought, to use it.

On the other hand.  Sometimes, because a particular YouTube video, is so relevant to ones own interests.  A well considered (by the YouTube creator) sponsorship section or product placement, can actually be useful, interesting and helpful.

That bitrate increase sounds significant to me.  Some content, doesn't really matter that much, if the bitrate is not as high as it can be, but other content types, can be noticeably nicer, to have the vibrant, detailed, high bit rate version.

E.g. A teardown video, where you want to see as clear as possible, views of the internal PCBs, components and things.  Rather than a slightly fuzzy, lower bit rate version of the same video, making it harder to see component markings on ICs, and less eye candy, when seeing the original device in operation.
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