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EEVblog&some other YouTube channels, no longer free, at best (HD) quality levels

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MK14:
On reflection, I think what has happened, is that some internet things, because the internet is still relatively new, compared to many things in life.  Have started out free, so YouTube has been free for a very long time.
But really costs a lots of money to run, needing lots of computers/servers, man power, premises, taxes and other bills to pay, big electricity bills, and all sorts of other costs.

They were getting some money, from advertisers, but some sources seem to say that, that has been declining, for various reasons, over the years.

So just like many other things in life, such as electricity bills, Petrol/Gas for cars, etc.  It needs paying for.

Not to mention, some of the YouTube producers, also want to earn money from the videos.

So I can't really insist or suggest, that it remains entirely free for ever.

MK14:

--- Quote from: HwAoRrDk on August 11, 2023, 12:04:52 pm ---
--- Quote from: MK14 on August 11, 2023, 11:54:28 am ---To many people (I think) and some countries, the £12.99 per Month, is not going to happen, as it is too expensive, compared to their available resources.

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That's the thing, YouTube have different prices for Premium in different countries. Here in the UK, our price is one of the highest. People are getting Premium for greatly reduced prices by using a VPN, etc and signing up as if they were in a different country. (It escapes me right now which countries have a much cheaper price - India? Turkey?)

For me personally, if Premium were more like £5-6 per month, I would pay for it, but not at £12.99.

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That is exactly how I feel.  £12.99 per month, just seems too much.  But £5-6 per month, is a lot more palatable.

Given that Amazon Prime monthly rate (paying yearly would be cheaper, overall), seems to be currently £8.99 per month, I can't see how YouTube can justify the £12.99, as Amazon Prime has a Video service and much more, included with the Prime subscription.

Interesting idea, to use a VPN and sign up for (as if you were in) another country.  I've heard about a similar concept for other thing(s), as well.

AndyBeez:
Would be interesting to see some analytics on the size of device screens channels are consumed on. For those with 82inch 8K media walls, resolution kills. But when most people are watching on tablets or max, a 27 inch monitor, regular HD is ample: Especially when they are watching for the content quality and not raging against the decompression artefacts on the edge of some building in the background. Premium is for a group of people with a specific use case. Maybe sports and gaming consumers with deep pockets? So will YT be expecting content makers to master in HD or 4K at 60fps?

Veteran68:

--- Quote from: HwAoRrDk on August 11, 2023, 12:04:52 pm ---That's the thing, YouTube have different prices for Premium in different countries. Here in the UK, our price is one of the highest. People are getting Premium for greatly reduced prices by using a VPN, etc and signing up as if they were in a different country. (It escapes me right now which countries have a much cheaper price - India? Turkey?)

For me personally, if Premium were more like £5-6 per month, I would pay for it, but not at £12.99.

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That's like $16.50 USD, which does seem a little steep. I wonder if the differences in fees have to do with geographic tariffs, or buffers against exchange rate fluctuations.

Here in the US, I've been paying $11.99 USD for at least the last few years (maybe started at $9.99? Don't recall). They just announced a price increase to $13.99 effective on my next bill later this month, which I wasn't crazy about. But most all of my other streaming services have gone up recently too, so it's understandable and largely inevitable. As I mentioned before, we have a LOT of streaming services in my household. I'm paying somewhere north of $150/month for Netflix, Hulu+Disney+ESPN (no ads), HBO Max, Showtime, Shudder (my own guilty pleasure), Peacock, Paramount+, and probably some others I can't think of. That's NOT counting Amazon Prime since I've subscribed pretty much since its inception, long before they offered streaming, for its other benefits. And I rarely watch any of them other than YT. So I consider it a drop in the bucket for the value I get out of it.


--- Quote from: AndyBeez on August 11, 2023, 12:33:32 pm ---Would be interesting to see some analytics on the size of device screens channels are consumed on. For those with 82inch 8K media walls, resolution kills. But when most people are watching on tablets or max, a 27 inch monitor, regular HD is ample: Especially when they are watching for the content quality and not raging against the decompression artefacts on the edge of some building in the background. Premium is for a group of people with a specific use case. Maybe sports and gaming consumers with deep pockets? So will YT be expecting content makers to master in HD or 4K at 60fps?

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In my basement office at home, I have a 4x monitor setup on my main workstation consisting of 3x 27" monitors (2K+4K+2K) and a 43" 4K monitor on the wall above those 3 monitors. I do the vast majority of my YT viewing on that 43" 4K monitor while I'm working on other things. I also have a 75" Sony on the other side of the basement which I'll also watch YT on sometimes. So resolution is important to me. I will occasionally watch on my laptop/MacBook or iPad. I seldom watch YT on my phone unless it's just a lecture thing I can listen to, as I just can't get into postage stamp sized videos.

Side note: when we need to keep the dogs occupied in the basement (when we have a lot of company, for example), we'll turn on a pet-centric YT channel on that 75" Sony. It's fun to watch them sometimes get into a video of other dogs/animals. There's a surprising number of niche YT channels for odd things like this.

asmi:
Over here in Canada they are increasing price to 12.99 CAD/month from September, before that it was 11.99 CAD/month

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