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Would you Subscribe to the EEVshill channel?

Yes, it's a good idea.
51 (42.5%)
Yes, but it's maybe a bad idea.
26 (21.7%)
No, but it's a good idea.
9 (7.5%)
No, and it's a bad idea.
34 (28.3%)

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Offline TomS_

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2019, 11:06:16 am »
Would marketers really be that stupid to pay money to someone who is obviously doing it as a piss take, and whos viewers are probably only there to watch the shill videos for laughs and probably have no interest in buying the products/services advertised?  :-DD

Somehow I think not, but prove me wrong?  :popcorn:

edit: Actually Im stupid and didnt understand the post. This sounds very entertaining. The worst that can happen is that they catch on and stop bothering you. :-+
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2019, 03:04:53 pm »
In my view, you have a large audience and a stellar reputation, you shouldn't do anything to tarnish it.
We sort of know which pieces of equipment were donated for testing, you talk about it in the opening monologue.
Your reviews have been balanced and fair.
 
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2019, 04:41:25 pm »
I would subscribe for the giggles.
Not sure many people would actually pay to be on the Shill channel but.
The Chinese companies would likely not know or understand the meaning of it and use it.
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2019, 04:56:44 pm »
Actually i have an idea - why not to play the game from the other side and actively reach to companies to promote the channel and  with the offer of featuring their products on this channel  :-DD
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2019, 05:00:08 pm »
Why not EEVil? :P

In my view, you have a large audience and a stellar reputation, you shouldn't do anything to tarnish it.
We sort of know which pieces of equipment were donated for testing, you talk about it in the opening monologue.
Your reviews have been balanced and fair.

Yeah, I agree with that.
 

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2019, 05:16:54 pm »
You should create an evil twin to do the paid reviews.  I’m kind of partial to “Deep Reviews with Davey Jones”
Make a hand painted backdrop that looks like your mailbag set but obviously not the real thing.
 

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2019, 05:18:13 pm »
The channel does not have to be sarcastic. There are always positive sides of products that can be honestly highlighted without praising. Why not to take the money laying around. Separation can be achieved by various means from wearing a hat like was suggested, saying a disclaimer at the beginning of videos or inserting humorous but inoffensive (to the vendor) remarks about the nature of the channel throughout shooting of the episodes.
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2019, 05:39:27 pm »
You'll have to do the videos sitting in one of those clear 'cash grab' booths with the fan blowing the money around.
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2019, 08:30:24 pm »
Would it be fraud if you replied from your "EEVShill" email address to the original incoming request, and then hope that they don't notice the change in identity? Of course supplying correct information when requested (x subs, shill channel link, etc.). Yeah I think thats a bit unfair.
 

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2019, 09:18:04 pm »
As they say in marketing, there is no bad publicity. Vendors can be given a choice to send products to Mailbag for a free, albeit "regular" EEVblog style review, or to the EEVshill channel for a paid review where they can have a leverage to highlight strong points and benefits of their product in their own wish list. Garantee, will be a line up of vendors ordering the service.
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2019, 09:28:31 pm »
I cannot see how this would work because any company paying you to review their product is going to require they see and approve the video first. In other words they only buy the video if they like it. Then they pay.
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2019, 09:37:27 pm »
EEVjunk would work for me.  :box:

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2019, 11:36:32 pm »
It would be too ambiguous for viewers and companies alike and it is a question of time when things would be mixed. It would not even take a mistake on the side of the creator, it might be sufficient if viewers don't get it right and interpret their own mindset in, triggering reactions you wouldn't want to deal with or that ruin the serious part of all your effort.

Discussing youtube economy itself might be interesting, but almost anyone does that. Shill or not shill, who cares if what you do makes sense and enables people to form their own opinion, which is the whole point of consuming videos about specific products or comparisons between them.

Practically anyone taking part in social media could involuntary be taken for a shill because in an attention economy the meta is to attract subscribers/watch time/clicks. Well, unless you would be so horrible in it that no one would want to watch your content.
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #38 on: November 02, 2019, 04:06:48 am »
It's a bad idea.

Likely companies won't go along with EEVshill as it's not the main channel with 673,000 odd subscribers.
If that doesn't worry them, then they get Dave to promote their possibly suspect product/marketing methods.
At the end of the day, most of this lot would be happy with getting an "influencer" like Dave shilling their stuff.

I know the chinese PCB companies don't give a crap who promotes their services, random youtubers who mess with electronics but couldn't design a PCB if their life depended on it have also gotten shill offers.
Anyone know of other companies with scatter cannon marketing methods ?

At the end of the day, Youtube needs less crapping shilling, it's just gotten out of hand at the moment. It's become a burden to watch some channels, too much like mainstream media (TV).
 

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #39 on: November 02, 2019, 04:31:42 am »
and sell baseball caps....  M E G A

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2019, 11:07:06 am »
So you are considering having two identities - one that is paid for doing reviews and one that is doing teardowns for the fun of it.. That is walking on a thin ice. Once people notice you are maximizing profit, you become indistinguishable from an advertiser.

I agree. No matter how well you design it to underline the sarcastic intention, and no matter how good your actual intentions are, your precious image of a completely unbribable, objective expert will suffer as a result. It would be fun to watch - for a few episodes. After that, the joke gets old really quickly, but the downsides, the reputational risk, is an issue of your lifetime.
 

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2019, 11:37:23 am »
I believe it is, perhaps, a little premature for some of the criticism that is being levelled here since Dave hasn't given an actual example for us to critique.

Nevertheless, unless Dave comes up with some performance recipe that stands the test of time, I must agree with this sentiment:
It would be fun to watch - for a few episodes. After that, the joke gets old really quickly
As such, I wonder if it would be worth the experiment.


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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2019, 08:56:39 pm »
Sure, do it. For extra shits and giggles, give the editing to the cheapest editor on freelancer.com. And maybe use the lowest possible production value. Like instead of shooting in the lab, just do it in the laundry room or something.

 

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2019, 09:27:19 pm »
This will cheapen the image of you, your company, and channel. There's a community on the net that would enjoy such a channel but do you really want to be seen as a professional or a joke. I suspect this would also hurt your existing relationships with some of the major companies who tend to avoid this type of channel and it would cheapen their image as well to be associated.

This is  just my opinion.

 
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2019, 10:30:01 pm »


I reckon blacksheeplogic above has pretty much nailed it in two lines  :-+

i.e. give it a miss for now, but consider it later on,
when social media and Youtube/Facebook etc sink further down in standards and morals  :palm: 
and just about everyone and their dog resort to tacky buck grabbing,
so product shill flogging won't be an issue, and most likely the norm 

The other side of the coin/SHILLing is..

the manufacturer/sponsors may send DJ a pre-checked device, fine tuned, calibrated to specs etc
and not a typical 9 dollar WTF (in sky blue) unit  hot off the TooHungLow assembly line

Dud product buyers will comment complaints, and or tr0ll DJ 24/7 and send the channel to internet oblivion

 

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2019, 04:49:51 pm »
Would marketers really be that stupid to pay money to someone who is obviously doing it as a piss take, and whos viewers are probably only there to watch the shill videos for laughs and probably have no interest in buying the products/services advertised?  :-DD

Somehow I think not, but prove me wrong?  :popcorn:

edit: Actually Im stupid and didnt understand the post. This sounds very entertaining. The worst that can happen is that they catch on and stop bothering you. :-+

That would be a bit of fun to watch but it would be a shame if it backfired in a way and I hope it doesn't affect all the other free goodies sent by manufacturers that Dave tears down and gets to keep after exposing the faults in them.

I misunderstood too from all the stuff they sent in the EEVShill video... they were asking for it for a long time.

It take it that it would be some parody with a bit of branding EEVShill.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2019, 04:52:37 pm by MrMobodies »
 

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2019, 11:07:38 pm »

That would be a bit of fun to watch but it would be a shame if it backfired in a way and I hope it doesn't affect all the other free goodies sent by manufacturers that Dave tears down and gets to keep after exposing the faults in them.


What other free goodies?  Those days are long past. Even mailbag doesn't get much love anymore. The only good thing about EEVShill would be if it injected new enthusiasm. But it wouldn't appeal to me.
 

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2019, 12:49:54 am »
This will cheapen the image of you, your company, and channel. There's a community on the net that would enjoy such a channel but do you really want to be seen as a professional or a joke. I suspect this would also hurt your existing relationships with some of the major companies who tend to avoid this type of channel and it would cheapen their image as well to be associated.

This is  just my opinion.

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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2019, 02:06:34 am »
and sell baseball caps....  M E G A
Make Electronics Great Again

DAMN! I like that!
That would trigger countless people, I must do this  >:D

« Last Edit: November 07, 2019, 02:12:52 am by EEVblog »
 
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Re: EEVshill
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2019, 02:22:18 am »
Get the safety line ready ... Looks like Dave is going in!!

 


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