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vad:
The cheapest BYD Seagull has a 305 km range, and its price tag starts at 78,800 yuan, which is just shy of £9,000.

Shonky:

--- Quote from: vad on October 06, 2023, 12:57:58 am ---The cheapest BYD Seagull has a 305 km range, and its price tag starts at 78,800 yuan, which is just shy of £9,000.

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Right but where can this be purchased in the UK or outside China? My point being that it's unlikely to be suitable in many countries.

300km is based on China's version of range tests which are "optimistic"

A very "theoretical price estimate" starts at the equivalent of 13k GBP here in Australia

vad:

--- Quote from: Shonky on October 06, 2023, 01:17:26 am ---
--- Quote from: vad on October 06, 2023, 12:57:58 am ---The cheapest BYD Seagull has a 305 km range, and its price tag starts at 78,800 yuan, which is just shy of £9,000.

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Right but where can this be purchased in the UK or outside China? My point being that it's unlikely to be suitable in many countries.

300km is based on China's version of range tests which are "optimistic"

A very "theoretical price estimate" starts at the equivalent of 13k GBP here in Australia

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It's just an illustration that the 9.5K GBP price point is not as crazy as it might seem, and it has already been achieved in other market.

Monkeh:

--- Quote from: vad on October 06, 2023, 01:25:03 am ---
--- Quote from: Shonky on October 06, 2023, 01:17:26 am ---
--- Quote from: vad on October 06, 2023, 12:57:58 am ---The cheapest BYD Seagull has a 305 km range, and its price tag starts at 78,800 yuan, which is just shy of £9,000.

--- End quote ---
Right but where can this be purchased in the UK or outside China? My point being that it's unlikely to be suitable in many countries.

300km is based on China's version of range tests which are "optimistic"

A very "theoretical price estimate" starts at the equivalent of 13k GBP here in Australia

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It's just an illustration that the 9.5K GBP price point is not as crazy as it might seem, and it has already been achieved in other market.

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It's been achieved, but does that thing even come close to meeting the standards required of vehicles in other markets?

We don't need more horror stories like this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67005620

Veteran68:

--- Quote from: coppice on October 05, 2023, 05:46:30 pm ---If that was in adaptive cruise mode its normal, and has nothing to do with the regen vs hydraulic braking split. If you look at the manual for most ICE powered cars with adaptive cruise they say the automated braking will not apply more than 40% or 50% of total available braking. I haven't seen one that explains why. Around town, when the collision avoidance braking kicks in, that can be quite aggressive. A pigeon crossing quite close in front of my car one day produced very heavy braking, so the automated system is capable of an emergency stop, even though that one was spurious. Its a good thing nobody was close behind me.

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My 2021 Audi Q5 will definitely slam on the brakes HARD if it thinks you're about to hit something. Like, snap you forward in your seatbelt and almost giving you whiplash. It's extremely unnverving when it's a false alarm and comes out of nowhere, where it misinterprets something as an imminent collision but it's not. You can disable it, but I do like the peace of mind that it brings if one day I'm not paying attention, fall asleep/pass out, or whatever. It might save somebody, and it's far faster than my reflexes could ever be -- I just wish their detection was a bit more foolproof.

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