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Electric car for £9500?
nctnico:
Agreed. IMHO those who say we should consume less have it completely wrong. We should consume more efficient, not less. Consuming less means evolving backwards like walking on all four instead of upright.
MT:
There are clearly room for "affordable" cars, as such have been manufactured numerous time for past 100 years like the "faster Ford horse". Strip off all electronic garbage for example,
referring to the University of Gothenburgs study from 2017 telling us 74.2 % of the cars price is due to electronics. The thing is, the car mafia (read banker families) dont want to make
affordable cars BECAUSE in 2035 you are supposed to embrace the ; own nothing, eat bugzz and be happy, paradigm.....while sometimes if your social scoring are OK be able to rent
a car for an hour driving out of your 15 min city to the protected CO2 free pristine natural nature watching the natural animals like squirrel, moose and rabbits.
Circlotron:
--- Quote from: MT on October 04, 2023, 10:09:47 pm ---referring to the University of Gothenburgs study from 2017 telling us 74.2 % of the cars price is due to electronics.
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Reference please.
Monkeh:
--- Quote from: Simon on October 04, 2023, 05:25:03 pm ---In my odd trips to the scrap yard I see cars with early noughties registration plates on them, so 20 years old. Why are they scrapped I ask? Fag tray is full, or more usually they can't be bothered to replace the cam belt, stuffed engine. So here we have a complete car, just missing a working engine. Why not replace with an electric motor and some batteries?
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Even ignoring the practicality of converting an ICE vehicle to EV (it's not as simple as you think), uh.. how much time have you spent working on cars, exactly? I've spent enough hours under 15-20 year old cars to know just how bad they get.. complete car, minus 10% of its original weight in rusted away material. But the rear axle gets lubed every time you brake hard!
Siwastaja:
--- Quote from: hans on October 04, 2023, 09:20:27 pm ---I get your point, I agree in the difference of avg vs median, but for the sake of this discussion I don't really care. I haven't read what kind of a car I will buy for my 9500. A hatchback, sedan, or SUV-MPV crossover?
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You will get an ugly 4-seater.
--- Quote ---Its a big assumption that some random person will make an electric car as aerodynamically, mechanically and electrically efficient that it directly competes with modern competitors.
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What? You don't believe in treez' aerodynamic design skills? This guy is world-class. I'm sure he'll deliver.
Quite seriously, I was commenting on that consumption number because the small size of the vehicle was obvious given the specification of 4 seats, and with top speed of 112km/h, people would mostly such car for commute / city driving. Even home-made conversions of old (1980's) cars of this size go well below 200 Wh/km, and this is despite use of heavy battery chemistries like 30Wh/kg lead acid or 90Wh/kg chinesium crap LFP, so it's not particularly difficult goal to achieve.
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