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Electroboom: How Right IS Veritasium?! Don't Electrons Push Each Other??
iMo:
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--- Quote from: AnalogueLove1867 on July 03, 2022, 01:41:43 am ---..
So. The movement of mass is the fundamental source of all electrical phenomenon and everything else is secondary effects of said movement.
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Prove the theory true and the Nobel Prize is yours..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_unified_field_theories
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What I am saying isn't a theory ( it is well established fact ).
And it isn't a unifying field theory of everything.
Likewise, nobody has ever produced a unifying field theory and I doubt that it is even possible.
It could be just as futile as trying to create a perpetual energy machine.
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Could you somehow document that fact? A couple of examples?
I am really pretty interested to know more about it, not joking..
PlainName:
I am not sure how you manage to reconcile these:
--- Quote from: AnalogueLove1867 ---But an electric field can't exist without an initial movement of charged particles in order to establish a potential difference.
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and
--- Quote --- pushes against the next electron via their negative electric fields
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It's a kind of chicken and egg situation: you can't have a field until something moves, but that movement is initiated by a field?
gnuarm:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on July 03, 2022, 11:43:13 am ---I am not sure how you manage to reconcile these:
--- Quote from: AnalogueLove1867 ---But an electric field can't exist without an initial movement of charged particles in order to establish a potential difference.
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How about the fact that this statement is wrong. Static electric fields exist, period. No movement required. The moment the wire is connected to the battery, there is a non-zero electric field in the wire.
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It's a kind of chicken and egg situation: you can't have a field until something moves, but that movement is initiated by a field?
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Someone is getting their fields crossed (pun intended).
m k:
Statistical effect of positions of electrons and statistical effect of interactions of photons.
Static electric field is not in a void.
electrodacus:
--- Quote from: AnalogueLove1867 on July 03, 2022, 09:57:59 am ---Literally nothing you have ever said has demonstrated in any way that electricity actually flows outside a wire as waves or that fields outside a wire are the primary source of energy.
They aren't. The are a secondary effect of moving charged particles with mass inside a conductor.
In my opinion. The underlying truth is actually that low IQ adults and children love watching pop science crap on youtube produced by smoothbrains like Veritasium who's only talent is in
Getting millions of views and maximizing his own paycheck. He is a joke and you are also a joke if you think he cares or even thinks deeply about any of the concepts he talks about.
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I appreciate the effort you put in your replays but the people you are arguing with will barely read one or to phrases and ignore the rest.
Simplifying complex concepts so that it can be presented to a larger public is likely not a bad thing but that is only valid if it is correct.
It seems to me that understanding energy is a problem for many and related to that understanding what energy storage is.
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