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tautech:
elcrni:
Thanks guys!

I have to agree with most of your comments, i for one like to own things, not rent them, same goes for the software. Now, this software as any other would have to maintained, serviced, improved... and that costs time and resources (money).

I would very much like to have this as a web service rather than dedicated platform app, in which case there should be PC version, Mac version, ios, android... and as i web service a user could simply download and run locally (on local PC, NAS server...) and access it from any device in LAN... this would then limit it to same network use, or perhaps a user could set it u in a way so he/she can access it fro outside, that pretty much up to a user and not me.

So the main point here is owning the thing and everything user has in the database, so if i get hit by a bus as someone said, no one of you would care :-)

Then, there should be a way to update/upgrade once a new release is out but that should be relatively easy.

And lastly, there absolutely should be a fee BUT considering the above, it would be pointless as anyone could download the thing and just share it for free with anyone interested.

Going by IP and licence would add too much extra work, more than developing the software itself so no point in doing it that way. Last thing i want is to end up chasing people to pay for something.

Which ever way look at things i keep getting back to yearly license as cant really see anything else being self sustainable.

Many thanks,
Alek




PlainName:

--- Quote ---this software as any other would have to maintained, serviced, improved... and that costs time and resources (money)

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That's what the upgrade fee is for. The selling price is for what there is at that point, not what there might be in future (which is basically continuous crowdfunding and not the norm).


--- Quote ---I would very much like to have this as a web service rather than dedicated platform app
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Now that would justify a subscription because it costs you to supply (whereas once your software is written you're done - remember, future work will get future payment). But, again, that wouldn't be for me. I would want my data to be here where I can look after it.


--- Quote --- this would then limit it to same network use
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Kind of. First, that's fine by me because I don't want it spread over the intertubes. But if you do need it accessible externally, that's what VPNs are for. Or port forwarding.

Basically, don't worry about the details. If it can be seen on the LAN then providing you don't deliberately break it the user can access it offsite if they want, not if they don't. Offering off-site hosting for a subscription would be great for those that don't want to deal with local infrastructure, though.

You're probably bored of me now, though, so I'll take a backseat from here :)
Zero999:

--- Quote from: elcrni on February 05, 2021, 10:47:29 am ---Thanks guys!

I have to agree with most of your comments, i for one like to own things, not rent them, same goes for the software. Now, this software as any other would have to maintained, serviced, improved... and that costs time and resources (money).
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As previously stated, that's what upgrades are for, but even then there's lots of software developers who overcharge for upgrades, which just fix a few bugs and include minimal new features.


--- Quote ---I would very much like to have this as a web service rather than dedicated platform app, in which case there should be PC version, Mac version, ios, android... and as i web service a user could simply download and run locally (on local PC, NAS server...) and access it from any device in LAN... this would then limit it to same network use, or perhaps a user could set it u in a way so he/she can access it fro outside, that pretty much up to a user and not me.

So the main point here is owning the thing and everything user has in the database, so if i get hit by a bus as someone said, no one of you would care :-)

Then, there should be a way to update/upgrade once a new release is out but that should be relatively easy.

And lastly, there absolutely should be a fee BUT considering the above, it would be pointless as anyone could download the thing and just share it for free with anyone interested.

Going by IP and licence would add too much extra work, more than developing the software itself so no point in doing it that way. Last thing i want is to end up chasing people to pay for something.

Which ever way look at things i keep getting back to yearly license as cant really see anything else being self sustainable.

Many thanks,
Alek

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That wouldn't intrest me. I want to be in control of my data. Ideally the software should be able to store it in some universal, open format, rather than a proprietary blob. I'm happy to pay a decent amount of money for useful software, but I resent giving the developer my data, whether it be on some cloud server, or because theire software stores it in a secret format, only they can access.
elcrni:


I would say that there has been a misundestanding here. When i said "So the main point here is owning the thing and everything user has in the database, so if i get hit by a bus as someone said, no one of you would care :-)" thats what i meant. You WOULD OWN everything including your database which you would be able to access with or without the software, in CSV for example. Once you run the thing locally, i have no control over your data any more, or any part of the software for that matter.

Otherwise what would be the point of running the thing locally if you can not access or do anything with your data, then we could just have it in the cloud, same thing.


@dunkemhigh
You're probably bored of me now, though, so I'll take a backseat from here :)

NO! If i would get bored that easily i would not post something like this up for a debate, i would just do it as i see fit :-)

Thanks,
Alek
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