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Offline German_EETopic starter

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The Puzzle of the Blank Password Field
« on: April 30, 2019, 04:15:37 pm »
I browse using Firefox and use it to store all of my passwords. After upgrading to the latest version I have noticed some strange behavior and I wonder if anyone can explain it.

On some sites I go to the login page and the user ID is filled out from the password manager data. it's visible, and I also see the password field populated with a line of black dots. Click 'Login' and I can gain access to the site.

On other sites (including this forum) both the user ID and the password field are clear when the page loads, I then click on the blank user ID field and my stored ID is shown as a drop down item. Once I click on this the ID and password field are populated and I can login.

What is causing the extra step? Why do some sites show the login details yet others require me to click on an empty box?
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Re: The Puzzle of the Blank Password Field
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2019, 04:18:23 pm »
On Chrome, this site automatically logs me in.  I don't even see the logon screen.
 

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Re: The Puzzle of the Blank Password Field
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2019, 04:20:05 pm »
You should check the html, and see what is name and id of the password field.

Sometimes they use different field names that the browser is looking for, hence issues with filling in the fields.

EDIT: overlooked you have it on this forum too. I checked the fields and that looks 'normal'. I'm running Safari, also no problem.

Any change you added the site to some sort of blacklist / disabled cookies ?
« Last Edit: April 30, 2019, 04:23:50 pm by onesixright »
 

Offline Stray Electron

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Re: The Puzzle of the Blank Password Field
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2019, 10:48:12 pm »
  It sounds like Firefox isn't saving the cookies for that site. In Firefox, open the Tools tab, then the Privacy section and tell if to "Accept Cookies from sites" and then select Exceptions and add the URL of the site in question and then tell it to "Allow" or "Allow for Session" and then Save your changes.
 

Offline German_EETopic starter

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Re: The Puzzle of the Blank Password Field
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2019, 06:50:51 am »
Ah!

As a security measure I am not saving any cookies, they are all deleted when I close the browser. I wonder if this is causing the issue and, if so, why would cookies be linked to the way the password field works?
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Offline onesixright

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Re: The Puzzle of the Blank Password Field
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2019, 07:02:35 am »
Ah!

As a security measure I am not saving any cookies, they are all deleted when I close the browser. I wonder if this is causing the issue and, if so, why would cookies be linked to the way the password field works?
Not sure. Technically that doesn’t make sense. But its easy to test, wetter it fixes your issue. So give it a try.


I know some browsers ask if you want to save usr/pass. If you said no, it will not ask again. So might check that  as-well.


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Re: The Puzzle of the Blank Password Field
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2019, 10:21:22 am »
I've noticed this too, but I think it is your 'Browser' that's doing that.
I have different 'email' addresses that I use on various 'sites', so obviously the 'Browser'
doesn't know which one I am using, until I start to enter the 'user', & then given a choice!!
It THEN knows the 'stored' password, for the choice you make.

Mind you, this has nothing to do with 'Cookies', which are a different "Kettle-Of-Fish", and
have to do with 'remembering' (feeding back) your I.P. address to check if you have 'visited'
before, and so that SITE remembers settings/purchases/views etc, but NOT your password.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2019, 10:23:31 am by GlennSprigg »
Diagonal of 1x1 square = Root-2. Ok.
Diagonal of 1x1x1 cube = Root-3 !!!  Beautiful !!
 

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Re: The Puzzle of the Blank Password Field
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2019, 05:08:11 pm »
No, changing my cookies policy has not solved this problem.
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Offline GlennSprigg

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Re: The Puzzle of the Blank Password Field
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2019, 12:30:14 pm »
No... that's right. It won't change anything as I explained.
Diagonal of 1x1 square = Root-2. Ok.
Diagonal of 1x1x1 cube = Root-3 !!!  Beautiful !!
 


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