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Electronics industry in the west (the lack of it)...(re-posted without naming)

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SilverSolder:

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--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on April 18, 2020, 05:05:16 pm ---As their costs rise due to environmental controls other places will be automatically more competitive.

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Chemical products,  specialized semiconductor products and various equipment from Japan remain competitive and almost monopoly despite rapidly and drastically raised environment standard from the 80s.

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This is a good point.  People who are good at something usually figure out how to do it cleanly too.

The benefits of exploiting an underpaid and un-loved workforce are short lived.  Today, the bad PR companies get from it will hurt the brand image and therefore sales (e.g. various scandals with sportswear,  running shoes, etc.)

coppice:

--- Quote from: treez on April 19, 2020, 08:49:08 am ---
--- Quote ---You know nothing about how the electronics industry works. Why do you just keep making things up?
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Thanks…you are a brilliant electronics engineer who can manage to get a new power supply going if the Chinese up the price of the current one……..however, the managers of the excellent Smoothskin Bare product (like all other such managers) are not engineers….they are business guys…when the Chinese ramp up the price of the PSU for SS Bare…they will just pay up.
If we look at the price of the magnificent SmoothSkin Bare, (and it is a great product) we can see that the consumer ends up paying  for any price rises in the Chinese  Power supply

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The first priority of the business guys is not to be screwed by other business guys as ruthless as they are. There is no way a company like Proctor and Gamble, with its huge electronics interests, would be so dumb as not to either lock in a long term supply agreement, or ensure they can easily swap out a module that might cause them supply issues. When you try to get a design in with people like this the first step is to talk to the engineers, and if they like what you have to offer you talk to the purchasing people who will negotiate supply conditions. Typically you will need that agreement settled before the engineers get to do any significant work with your offering. As I said, you show no signs of understanding how the electronics industry works. You also seem unprepared to research and learn.

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