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Bud:

--- Quote from: Gyro on November 21, 2021, 10:39:35 am ---. I'm surprised you think Canada is different from the US and UK (and EU) in that respect.

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Half an hour HR drone interview on the phone (totally useless from technical competency perspective) and one hour interview with the hiring manager, often accompanied with members of the team. Done.
In fact a friend of mine actually complaint his interview was too short !  :D  (yes they hired him )

coppercone2:
thats too strict, when you have to sign off on something that you changed the parts for when you had fingers on your throat from the beginning, fat chance its gonna be a quality product. Everything has to be negotiable about a design because the fucking device physics are not aligned with some stupid ass company policies or wants lol. There is a high chance they have low grade unrefined bullshit to begin with.

They could say 'ideally we want' but if you start hearing 'don't bullshit' on your first day (verbose), fuck em!

 Sounds like when the supply chain is bad, work sucks.

There is something to be said about being respectful for someones topology or core components (don't switch a MCU architecture for no reason) but acting like this about some analog parts is silly. There are so many different types of similar performance converters a smart person can make with similar costs and performance that its hardly an issue, unless the power levels are staggering.

Like if someone started making demands to switch a classic well liked simple class A stage to a class D for little to no reason, I could see that as someone trying to change the 'feel' of a product where sales starts thinking 'wtf', but in most cases you would be OK. I had issues like this were there was maybe like 1 circuit out of many that I was warned is 'difficult' to work with and not to spend time screwing with it unless I knew exactly what was going on. I did not* so I just left it alone because there were like 50 easier development paths to takes in order to improve the complex board. But still that meant like "if you can't present a page of equations and ramifications for changes you want to make with this sub circuit in 2 weeks, just work on something easier". It was not off the books, it was just a 'difficult work' warning, which is reasonable, because most companies have circuits that would cause a mental breakdown in a starting engineer if they were given it for a first job.

*I tried to compare it to other parts/typologies that I chose with regards to either performance or cost, but my analysis was unable to find a better circuit, so I just did not push the issue. Classic case of something complicated working fine in a circuit surrounded by other things working not so fine, so just leave that alone and so something else. You get to be the one telling the boss good job for once, it looks like your old circuit is still best in class (it was not only my desire to eliminate that circuit, it is good, but it sure irked people.. naturally you wanted to go to a modern part but it was just not gonna happen) :-DD

coppercone2:
also ignore the hiring company, there are alot of them, they all have a bad reputation and their hated. When you have a real interview for a good place, mentioning a hiring company/contractor company is similar to mentioning that you got mugged in the past. It's more seen that you are a victim then a problem. The hiring company is acting like a feudal enterprise.. problem is you are a citizen and not a serf. The hiring company is not a goverment institution, its just ONE ad-hock network setup to act as a paid service for corporate entities. There are ALOT of these entities and NONE of them are 'aligned' to be in favor of hiring agencies. "elite hiring practices' are often just a indicator of 'internal people problems', you find out no one does any 'elite' work there most of the time.

Its like saying you were part of some desperado vanguard mercenary force sent to the fringe of humanity to maintain operations in some severely unstable area. Contractors experience is similar to Aliens (1986) or Outland (1981) :-DD.

No one is going to blame you for not being 'patriotic' HAHA. The person in the company that works with the hiring company is probobly disliked as well. That guy probobly uses contractors/temps/agency hires because his 'bedside manner' is terrible BTW. Keep in mind also that people that works alot of temp/contractor jobs start to develop thick skin.. so they end up being sent to work for 'difficult' employees that are otherwise useful. Sometimes an average service contract for a department is as simple as putting a average number on 'how much of this boss can you take?'

This is possibly an opportunity in itself, since this leads to easy jobs under difficult people, so people with 'diffusal' skills can find work opportunities... but I would not advise trying to make a positive on toxic work conditions unless your hands are tied.

Gyro:

--- Quote from: Bud on November 21, 2021, 04:00:54 pm ---....
In fact a friend of mine actually complaint his interview was too short !  :D  (yes they hired him )

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Your friend was right.

floobydust:
For tradesmen, acquaintance gives a paid $50/hr for the aptitude-test portion of his job interviews. He gives a candidate a multimeter and control box that is not working and has them troubleshoot it. There's the usual contactors, relays, switches etc. After all the hype, bragging, @ss kissing in the interview, do you really know your stuff?
It's at most 1/2hr of time but point is the candidate is getting paid for it. Many of them choke and can't do it, they are used to just replacing things.

Placement agencies have their own sharky environment - they fight (internally) over which agent serves the client company, and whom is pimping out the candidate. It's dog eat dog.
Agents can hoard CV's to try keep their candidate exclusive, out of the central database. Or steal another agent's candidate, or schmooze a client company - anything to get a placement. They don't even know the difference between PCB, FMEA, C, SQL, Python etc. it can get pretty funny as they are pretty much salespeople. I would say they want to preserve the relationship with CrassB Co. so OP takes the blame.

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