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Electronics people and football
CatalinaWOW:
A few comments from someone who played sports at a semi-pro level as a young man, but is long past those times.
1. All the comments about a sport (or sports) being boring are really a reflection on the commenter. Soccer is boring if you don't know what is going on. Same thing for American football. And afaik for all other sports. I've never watched enough cricket (or played at all) to understand what is going on, and I do find it boring. But clearly those who do understand enjoy it a lot. I enjoy watching American football, Canadian footfall, rugby and soccer. Haven't seen much Australian rules football and thus don't understand it well, but can see how once I learned it, it would be enjoyable.
2. I learned a long time ago that it wasn't good for me to get very involved watching any sport. Because sooner or later "your" team loses. And the emotional downer (again, for me) was nearly as big as when I was playing myself. And something I had no control over. Wasn't worth it. I suspect I am not alone in this, at least among rational groups like those on this forum.
3. Workplace involvement in sports is largely related to how consuming the work is. Sports doesn't seem big in most medical settings. Many engineering jobs are fully consuming. Where I have seen sports take hold in engineering environments there have been no proximate deadlines, repetitive (even boring) tasks and other factors that made outstanding distractions attractive.
james_s:
I know what's going on in football, I know how to play it, I've enjoyed football video games now and then, but watching sports just does not interest me. It's no different than the fact that most people would find engineering boring, it's just not their thing. I just generally don't like passively watching other people do something, it doesn't engage me. With pro sports especially I have no connection with the players, they're not my friends, I've never met them, they wouldn't know who I was if they met me. How can I get excited over what they're doing?
Electro Detective:
--- Quote from: xmo on April 08, 2020, 03:33:09 am ---
I never played, but it's fun to watch:
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Awesome rig mate :clap: but you're enjoying it in private and or with good company :)
two thumbs up :-+ :-+ because I don't have to hear about it on Monday/s :scared:
or be nominated for an Academy Award pretending to listen and care :o
;D
vk6zgo:
--- Quote from: Electro Detective on April 07, 2020, 11:22:48 pm ---
Sports is supposed to be about friendly social based competition and good cheer afterwards,
regardless of who won, or who 'came second'.
Well, it was pretty much so, even in the big smoke, once..
AFAICT it's become a looney fanaticism,
barracking and supporting suspected (and caught) drug cheats
playing perhaps/maybe rigged games, depending on how the betting sits amongst the big punters and bookies, via numerous rumors :-//
Supporting interstate teams against ones local teams should be classed as 'Sporting Treason' :rant:
and if caught and sentenced, offenders serve their time as weekend house detention :popcorn:
and fwiw, if there are extreme "foam at the mouth" about Oscilloscopes!" members here ???
I'd rather follow their play, and catch something I can use with my oscilloscope/s
;D
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The problem with AFL & NRL are that they are both extended State competitions.
The old VFL, for instance, had a lot of "cross town" rivals, who were very passionate about their little patch of Melbourne, & let's face it, Melbourne was seriously boring back in the day, so it gave them something to be passionate about.
When the AFL was formed, all the old suburban clubs were "grandfathered" into it, with all their followers.
The WAFL didn't get to do that, & new clubs especially for the AFL were formed.
The sorta got Port Adelaide into the comp, but the connection between the original club & the AFL is tenuous.
In WA, the crosstown rivalry between the Dockers & Eagles is intense, & the Umpires are abused by both sides in a Derby, but supporters of both teams travel by train to & from the game, mix at the stadium, all quite amiably.
The same thing happens with supporters of the Perth Glory & the Interstate teams they play.
I wonder if this is because they don't have a century or so of history, but I never noticed any "aggro" with the WAFL, either.
Re "sporting traitors".
Before the advent of the AFL, the VFL games were shown on TV in WA, & many people picked a team to follow.
This continued, & you still have Hawthorn, Essendon, & so on, followed by some in this State.
People don't live forever in one State, so someone from Sydney, now in Melbourne, may have worked in WA, been introduced to both the AFL & the "A League" in that city, & so follows the Eagles & the Perth Glory, whilst in the NRL still staying loyal to the "Rabbitohs".
Even people who have never left Melbourne may follow interstate clubs.
What do you do if you were a Fitzroy supporter?
Change allegiance to one of the other teams you have opposed for years, or stay with the Lions, even if they've moved across the country?
Re Vomit. & disgusting toilets
Plenty of spilt drinks, dropped pies & other crud, but vomit was notable for its absence.
I have been to many games at the venerable Subiaco Oval, & yes, the "Dunnies" were old, & crowded, but
"disgusting"?
I have been around the traps for a long time, & have seen disgusting toilets, but these were not them!
I honestly can't see the harm in sports fans, & if they only give you the opportunity to feel superior, they have surely achieved something!
Electro Detective:
Great that you've copped a better sports experience overall,
but I'm sticking to what I know commented previously, based on what I have seen too many times
FYI Melbourne was never boring back in the days of real footy by normal un-enhanced tattoo free blokes
and the local VFL and VFA games were interesting while they were locally based
fwiw we knew most of the players and or knew someone that knew them or related to them, or played footy with them at school, and so forth etc
so 'supporting' a team back then meant something, and kept us off the dog eat dog streets longer >:D
Once the big moneytards threw cash at the clubs to make or break them and or shift them interstate, it was game over for me,
it became just another 'product' laced with idolistic BS
Defend the current crop of sports fans if you will, but rest assured most of them have screws loose, fanatical and dangerous if it doesn't go there way,
look at the neanderthal behavior in other countries.
Would aussies be any different once their country and society degrades the same way?
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