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Title: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: TheWelly888 on September 29, 2013, 02:49:28 pm
My godson will be seven years old soon and I'm wondering if it is not too early to try to get him interested in electronics?

Did anyone buy something electronics related for their child, grandchild, nephew/niece or godson/goddaughter that went down well?

I might get him something for Christmas rather than his seventh birthday in October so it isn't urgent.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Codemonkey on September 29, 2013, 03:07:17 pm
I'd buy him either a book on law or one on medicine. Don't doom him to a life of misery as an engineer!
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: c4757p on September 29, 2013, 03:18:07 pm
A screwdriver, and a liability waiver from his parents.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: nctnico on September 29, 2013, 03:32:10 pm
Over here they have experiment kits under a brand name called Spektro (use Google to find more). These are suitable for relatively young children and AFAIK they also come with an English manual.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Stonent on September 29, 2013, 03:58:00 pm
At his age I had those xx in one kits from Radio Shack, now sold under the Elenco brand. I was also programming in BASIC. Imagine of Arduino existed back then.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Hydrawerk on September 29, 2013, 04:08:37 pm
Buy him an simple electronics lab kit. (Photos not taken by me!)
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Stonent on September 29, 2013, 04:35:28 pm
Yes those kits.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: c4757p on September 29, 2013, 04:37:56 pm
These kits are awesome. If you get him one, you may not be able to pry him away from it ;D
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: elgonzo on September 29, 2013, 04:43:52 pm
These kits are awesome. If you get him one, you may not be able to pry him away from it ;D
Indeed.
If you get one of these Science Fair kits, your kid will get nothing.
Because you will be playing with it, impersonating Montgomery Scott. ;)
God, i love the looks of it...

Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: jancumps on September 29, 2013, 05:50:13 pm
They are too complex for your common 7 year old.
Or my kids were behind the norm at that age : )
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: c4757p on September 29, 2013, 05:57:07 pm
They are too complex for your common 7 year old.
Or my kids were behind the norm at that age : )


That's why I said "screwdriver", I was only half joking about that. Most seven year olds, if they're going to be responsive to this at all, will be happier to look inside stuff. But I definitely had things like this when I was seven, and I'm willing to bet a lot of people here did as well.

I hate to say that some kids are "better at" electronics than others - I firmly believe that any non-disabled human can learn nearly anything with enough effort - but some are definitely more predisposed to nerdy pursuits, and I think these kids will have no problem with a kit like this, even if they don't 100% understand every single thing in it.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: jancumps on September 29, 2013, 06:00:37 pm
I was actualy thinking more bout motoric ability than understanding what's going on.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: NiHaoMike on September 29, 2013, 06:06:05 pm
I actually got one of those kits around that age. I wouldn't call it too complex.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: daveshah on September 29, 2013, 06:26:38 pm
A '60-in-1' version of those is where I started with electronics around 6-7 years old
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: tszaboo on September 29, 2013, 06:38:15 pm
I got hooked up on electronics because of model trains. We had a 3 train 2m big circle TT setup when I was a child. I remember playing with it since I was five every now and then. Expect to spend a lot on it.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Neilm on September 29, 2013, 07:42:12 pm
I actually got one of those kits around that age. I wouldn't call it too complex.

Ditto - it was a simple one and I always was annoyed that I couldn't do half of the projects in the project book.

It started a life long interest in electronics.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: elgonzo on September 29, 2013, 07:47:13 pm
I got hooked up on electronics because of model trains. We had a 3 train 2m big circle TT setup when I was a child. I remember playing with it since I was five every now and then. Expect to spend a lot on it.

TT scale in Belgium? That must have been in the 50s/60s then  ;D
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: JohnnyGringo on September 29, 2013, 07:50:07 pm
Let me climb up on my soap box for a few words please.

  This applies to any field of interest.  I suggest, don't just buy a child a *toy* and then tell them to go play with it. Find a project that both of you can work on together.

  Invent situations where you have to do a particular task, and tell them that you absolutely *need* their help to get it done.  Children love to help their parents (up to a certain age <grin> ), it makes them feel like a grownup. The gift you are really giving is your time, there is nothing more precious in the world. Not just some box of parts that may just collect dust somewhere, or books that go unread. 

  I think the screwdriver and discarded junk was the best idea (RE: c4757p), but, make it a partnership.

  Don't just hand them a screwdriver and tell them to go take the world apart, and report back to me what you find and learned along the way. (Too much like homework)
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Hydrawerk on September 29, 2013, 08:16:21 pm
Yes, since I was 7 years old or so I dismantled many non-working radios, VCRs, telephones, reel tape recorders and even a washing machine...
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: c4757p on September 29, 2013, 08:21:31 pm
I also dismantled many non-working* radios, VCRs, telephones, etc...

*I swear it was! That was already broken!
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: fpga on September 29, 2013, 08:37:43 pm
A 7 year old should definitely be able to handle the simple electronics lab kits. As long as it has him/her building circuits with switches, lights, motors, buzzers, etc., with clear step by step instructions written for their level.

At age 8 I was building Radio Shack kits involving soldering components to a PCB. At age 9 I built my first short wave radio all by myself, and it worked when I powered it on for the first time. Unfortunately at that age I was hooked on electronics and that doomed the rest of my life to being an engineer.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: fpga on September 29, 2013, 08:47:40 pm
Ah yes, I remember going to the dump with my Dad. He would go there to dispose of trash, I'd go there to pick up discarded radios and TV's. Sometimes I'd also get something with an interesting motor like mixer, drill, or sewing machine.

I had tons of fun taking them apart, removing components, etc. I learned a lot about how things were put together and identifying components. Kind of like what Dave does in his videos, but from a 7 to 10 year old perspective.

The only problem is that giving a 7 year old a busted old TV, radio, or computer might not receive the same enthusiasm from the parents.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Neilm on September 29, 2013, 09:01:42 pm
The only problem is that giving a 7 year old a busted old TV, radio, or computer might not receive the same enthusiasm from the parents.

True - but give him a small transformer and a pair of AA batteries and tell him he can give his brother a shock and that would get his interest. Although having said that, it did annoy my brother >:D
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: tszaboo on September 29, 2013, 10:35:11 pm
I got hooked up on electronics because of model trains. We had a 3 train 2m big circle TT setup when I was a child. I remember playing with it since I was five every now and then. Expect to spend a lot on it.

TT scale in Belgium? That must have been in the 50s/60s then  ;D
I only live in Belgium recently, and not that old  ;D. On the other side of the iron curtain it was more famous size.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: nctnico on September 29, 2013, 10:36:47 pm
In my experience kids have different interests nowadays with the availability of internet and games and so on. My youngest has some interest in technical stuff but every time I try to take on a project (building a Lego model for instance) it just leaves me building the damn thing and him on the computer chatting with his online friends. My oldest has no interest in technical stuff OTOH it took him about 30 minutes to circumvent the time limit I set in our internet router  :scared: .
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: dexters_lab on September 29, 2013, 11:34:58 pm
When i was a kid i always wanted to know how things worked and wanted to take everything apard, but not everyone does...

Buy them a set of decent philips and posidrive screwdrivers, maybe some small torx and see what happens. If you find yourself with a load of things in bits then buy them an electronics kit.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: zapta on September 30, 2013, 12:35:49 am
Get him Kickstarter For Dummies so he can crowd finance  his toys.

http://www.amazon.com/Kickstarter-For-Dummies-Computer-Tech/dp/1118505433 (http://www.amazon.com/Kickstarter-For-Dummies-Computer-Tech/dp/1118505433)
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Strada916 on September 30, 2013, 02:57:03 am
when i was 8 i was given a DSE Funways Kit Volume 2. Which had a soldering iron, FM mic kit and some solder. Parents just thought yeah what ever. And now here I am right into ELectronics.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: c4757p on September 30, 2013, 03:09:49 am
Which had a soldering iron, FM mic kit and some solder.

That's a cool idea.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Stonent on September 30, 2013, 06:19:18 am
Which had a soldering iron, FM mic kit and some solder.

That's a cool idea.

"Hot" idea :p

Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: TheWelly888 on September 30, 2013, 09:14:38 am
Great ideas, all!  Thanks for the suggestions ;D

Dismantling old gear sounds like great fun but my godson's house does not have a garage or basement  :(

In the end, I decided to get him this: http://www.maplin.co.uk/amazing-72-educational-experiments-science-workshop-226537 (http://www.maplin.co.uk/amazing-72-educational-experiments-science-workshop-226537) and have reserved one at my local Maplin store.

By the way, NANDblog, model railways also got me hooked into electronics.

Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Psi on September 30, 2013, 09:20:12 am
Cool looking RC car in kit form
What 7year old doesn't like an RC car?

bonus if you can find one that runs arduino or is hackable in some way.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: vk3yedotcom on September 30, 2013, 01:17:43 pm
Try this for size:

1 cardboard box or storage cube

Fill to the brim of:

Old cables
Mains switches
Speaker
Buzzers
electrical tape
Battery
Battery holder
A few wrecked radios/tape recorders etc from the street (preferably with motors)
Phillips head screwdriver (to pull above apart)
Light globes / holders
Small lunch boxes/storage containers

[Optional] Store in shed for 6 months to gather dust

Worked for me anyway. 

If they like it then get them an electronics set with 20 - 50 projects for Christmas.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Psi on September 30, 2013, 01:46:17 pm
hehe, That reminds me of the 30cm x 30cm x 30cm  $5 mystery grab boxes i used to get at the ham radio market days when i was a kid.

Damn they were awesome, a huge sealed box full to the top of electronic parts. And they were mostly small components leds, switches, resistors, caps etc. so there was A LOT of them in the box.
Never knew what was inside until I got home and opened it.
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: elgonzo on September 30, 2013, 04:07:54 pm
hehe, That reminds me of the 30cm x 30cm x 30cm  $5 mystery grab boxes i used to get at the ham radio market days when i was a kid.

There are still some companies here in Germany that try a similar approach to fool people.
It is mostly about catering to those customers who will pay for the privilege to dispose old junk (http://www.pollin.de/shop/dt/OTY4OTkxOTk-/Bauelemente_Bauteile/Sortimente/Sonstiges/Super_Ueberraschungspaket.html)... oh boy... (not sure how it is in other parts of the world, though.)
Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: IntegratedValve on September 30, 2013, 05:14:39 pm
My godson will be seven years old soon and I'm wondering if it is not too early to try to get him interested in electronics?

Did anyone buy something electronics related for their child, grandchild, nephew/niece or godson/goddaughter that went down well?

I might get him something for Christmas rather than his seventh birthday in October so it isn't urgent.

Buy him an RC toy, a car...and wait after one week

If he took it apart to see how it works and what inside then he's interested in electronics. Otherwise don't push it.

Title: Re: Electronics related gift ideas for seven year old kid?
Post by: Hydrawerk on September 30, 2013, 08:59:44 pm
Sometimes around 2000 I also bought a plastic bag with some assorted electronic components... But the bag was transparent.  :-+ There were some resistors and capacitors mostly.