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wraper:
--- Quote from: tom66 on November 30, 2022, 08:15:05 pm ---Man = someone who identifies as male.
Woman = someone who identifies as female.
That's it. That's literally the definition.
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That not a definition by any reasonable standard but something that woke shitheads invented recently.
And then rapists who identify as a woman get into woman prisons where rape more women.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/oct/11/karen-white-how-manipulative-and-controlling-offender-attacked-again-transgender-prison
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/seven-sex-attacks-in-womens-jails-by-transgender-convicts-cx9m8zqpg
https://nypost.com/2022/04/25/transgender-rikers-inmate-gets-7-years-for-raping-female-prisoner/
If what you think about yourself is the objective reality, then what if a grown male identifies as a 5 year old girl and wants to get into kindergarten?
james_s:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on November 30, 2022, 08:54:27 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on November 30, 2022, 08:15:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on November 30, 2022, 08:12:51 pm ---True, especially given many people can no longer define basic words such as man and woman.
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Oh come on, you can't be serious about this crap.
Man = someone who identifies as male.
Woman = someone who identifies as female.
That's it. That's literally the definition.
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Identifies as what? How do I know I'm a man and not: a woman, non-binary, fluid, pan gender etc.? What's the objective reality?
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Chromosomes. XY = man, XX = woman, basic biology it really is that simple. If a person wants to live as something else I don't have a problem with that, but the idea that one can pick their gender and it makes them literally that gender is nonsense. Scientists can look at skeletal remains or DNA of a person that died thousands of years ago and determine their sex, it is permanently ingrained into every cell in our body.
james_s:
--- Quote from: tom66 on November 30, 2022, 07:55:11 pm ---You can censor things that go against objective fact, though, and pretending that there isn't such a thing as objective fact is farcical. No one rational believes that 5G causes COVID but that's an example of where the disinformation line lies. If you don't have any policy on misinfo then you get nutters burning down 5G towers. Realistically, advertisers won't tolerate their content being shown alongside such dribble, so they'll pull out if platforms do nothing about this.
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The solution to this is a feature called Brand Safety which is something that all of the social networking platforms support in their advertising. A client can provide a list of keywords to include or exclude, their ads will not be served with content that matches any of the exclude keywords.
tom66:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on November 30, 2022, 08:54:27 pm ---Identifies as what? How do I know I'm a man and not: a woman, non-binary, fluid, pan gender etc.? What's the objective reality?
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Do you think you're a man? Then you're a man. But for some, simple male = man, female = woman breaks down. By assuming that, you don't account for transgender people, but even if you want to ignore that group, which I assume you do because that's the thing a lot of people with your type of opinion do, then you still need to handle intersex and no biological sex (around 1% of all people - similar to transgender rates in fact). Gender has only strongly correlated with sex, it's not equal to sex.
I don't see the problem with saying you're whatever you want, provided it's not something like saying you're a nazi or whatever, because that's outright offensive to large numbers of people. I know a trans person well enough to accept them for what they want to be, and I would hope one day you could do the same, just like society learned to accept that being gay was OK. A couple of years ago I would have been a lot more like yourself, but it's pretty clear from the research and studies that acceptance is one of the best routes to dealing with gender dysphoria. There is really very little debate on this matter, even if some other matters about transgender people are still debated.
We still need the distinction of biological sex for sports for example, because there's clearly a difference between biologically male and biologically female athletes, but in most areas, it's completely OK to say you're whatever you want to be. And who does it hurt?
james_s:
--- Quote from: Bud on November 30, 2022, 07:48:29 pm ---
--- Quote from: Buriedcode on November 30, 2022, 07:42:50 pm ---And Elon wonders why advertisers are pulling out?
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So far he does not give a squat about it. Check your facts.
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He should, if he wants the service to be profitable, advertising is responsible for the bulk of the income and likely always will be. He is of course free to ignore this and keep pumping his own money into the thing to keep it going or find some other source of income, but I don't think it's likely other sources will match the $5 Billion or whatever they were taking in from advertising. The advertisers are the customer, you the user are the product, that is true of all social networking platforms. Anyone who knows anything about the business knows this.
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