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Elon Musk is a nice chap
coppice:
--- Quote from: tom66 on December 01, 2022, 10:17:12 pm ---I don't know what study you're referring to. In the US, this study was performed which indicated a reduction in feeling suicidal (or having taken steps toward suicide) by 60%:
https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/930195
--- Quote ---Researchers found a 60% decrease in moderate and severe depression and 73% decrease in suicidality among transgender and non-binary youth who received puberty blockers or gender-affirming hormones over a 12-month period, according to a study abstract presented during the virtual American Academy of Pediatrics 2021 National Conference & Exhibition.
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What sex were the subjects in the study? Take any woman, pump her full of testosterone, and in the short to medium term her confidence rises substantially, and she feels much better about her life. That isn't sustainable, though.
james_s:
--- Quote from: tom66 on December 01, 2022, 10:17:12 pm ---There's no doubt that GD is a serious mental illness and no one (sensible) is claiming otherwise
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It seems like that should be the case, but your own NHS officially states "Gender dysphoria is not a mental illness" and they are not the only ones.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/
The APA has also taken this stance: https://nicic.gov/being-transgender-no-longer-mental-disorder-apa-2012
I've encountered quite a few people who insist that it is a physical defect with the body not matching the mind rather than a mental disorder that the mind doesn't match the body.
And my comment regarding anorexia, that is a disorder where a person sees themselves as overweight just as a trans person sees themselves as a gender other than what they were born, they both are body dysphoric disorders. "Affirmative care" for an anorexic would be acknowledging that they are in fact overweight and taking steps to help them lose weight. That isn't the same thing as calling them fat which implies an insult.
RJSV:
Coppice, just a side note about Synesthesia.
I believe I have a mild, inconsequential form of synesthesia, I think called:
'Visual phantom Limb'.
The limbs are there, but when hidden, behind a blanket or table top, I can 'see' a shadowy form of 'hand', waving there unseen physically.
I've surmised that's just the brain synthesizing a crude likeness, in absence of actual light perception. Often, the movements are conveyed, but not coinciding with actual real hand waving there, in my informal 'tests'.
Just the brain supplying the missing info, which is perception of a Limb'. Those hand motions get seen by the eyes, what?, Some billions of times over a lifetime. So that makes sense.
Never diagnosed tho.
AndyBeez:
No missing limbs, arms, flippers or even hydraulic tenticles in Elon's world after he upgrades his motor skills with an embedded 'super cognitive' Neuralink chip.
--- Quote ---Elon Musk shows off updates to his brain chips and says he’s going to install one in himself when they are ready.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/01/elon-musks-neuralink-makes-big-claims-but-experts-are-skeptical-.html
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tszaboo:
--- Quote from: james_s on December 01, 2022, 08:52:42 pm ---
--- Quote from: vad on December 01, 2022, 08:40:24 pm ---The question is more about someone’s insistence on dating another person who cannot be identified morphologically and/or genetically and/or psychologically as a male or a female. According to some research, about 5% of adult population fall under that category.
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It's way less than 5% that cannot be identified genetically. Intersex people do exist but they are very rare.
Others are free to date whoever they are attracted to as long as it involves consenting adults it's none of my business.
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It's well documented to be somewhere around 0.02 to 0.05%, or one person in 5000 people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
Should we care about it, and let these people have surgeries and let them identify how they want to? Sure. Is this like the most important social issue, that have to be put into every single hollywood movie, shoved down our eyes constantly? Please, look at the unemployment rate, the number of homeless people, or how people are living in other countries. The issue is simple. "Hey I have a medical condition and I am identifying as this and this.", "Sure, whatever". This is how an adult conversation looks like. But no, now we have to endure compelled speech, constant propaganda and forced medication of adolescents, or "ladies playing the piano with their junk on national television prime time, uncensored" (I didn't make that up). Why? Because the medical procedures are profitable.
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--- Quote ---Researchers found a 60% decrease in moderate and severe depression and 73% decrease in suicidality among transgender and non-binary youth who received puberty blockers or gender-affirming hormones over a 12-month period, according to a study abstract presented during the virtual American Academy of Pediatrics 2021 National Conference & Exhibition.
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12 months is way too short to reach conclusions for this. I also have a problem with gender studies publications, just because they fail to represent very basic principles of the scientific method. And when scientists are trying to do their studies with the scientific method, the people doing this are cancelled because they don't reach the desired results.
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