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Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: james_s on December 03, 2022, 11:57:28 pm ---The same point could be illustrated with someone less infamous, even a hypothetical fictional person. Let's say this person develops a cure for cancer and later is found to be a prolific child molester or serial killer. Are they a good person? Probably not. Did they do some good things? Yes, absolutely. Is the world a better place overall because of them? That is not so easily answered. People are not "good" or "bad", they consist of a mix of good things and bad things, the ratio of which determines how relatively good or bad they are.

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One example I mention when this comes up is one Alan Turing. I know times are different now.
james_s:

--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on December 04, 2022, 12:08:05 am ---One example I mention when this comes up is one Alan Turing. I know times are different now.

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Was there something bad that he did? He was gay and that was illegal where he lived at the time, but it seems pretty harmless in itself. I don't know if he engaged in activities that actually harmed anybody though.
Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: james_s on December 04, 2022, 12:12:03 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on December 04, 2022, 12:08:05 am ---One example I mention when this comes up is one Alan Turing. I know times are different now.

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Was there something bad that he did? He was gay and that was illegal where he lived at the time, but it seems pretty harmless in itself. I don't know if he engaged in activities that actually harmed anybody though.

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Well, I'm just saying the establishment that truly felt that Turing was harming society is the same bunch of turds that even today is still barging into your life and telling you how to live it. I just think they should be made to recognize that.
vk6zgo:
OK, let's go with Jeffery Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, or for an Oz touch, David & Catherine Birnie, Ivan Milat, & perhaps, John Wayne Glover.
(The "Duke" would be horrified that his name was given to two different serial killers in separate countries.)

What "good things" did any of them do?
Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: vk6zgo on December 04, 2022, 01:56:51 am ---
What "good things" did any of them do?

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Raise personal safety awareness to such a high level that the nanny state could only dream about.
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