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Elon Musk is a nice chap
RJSV:
Off the rails, for a while now, but several folks seem interested enough to continue...I've considered reporting MYSELF to moderator, ...but that's an old, old self-effacing Woody Allen joke.
The point about the (deliberate) name calling sarcasm is that those labels get slung to smear, often. Do we really need to hear about Steve Bannon, for example, in terms of 'greasey'?
That particular instance, the big media author made sure it was a quote, from some 'anonymous' guy in a crowd, shouting.
They hide, they smear, tossing on labels, THATs my point.
How about: 'Morbidly Rich'. A lot of folks might want to use that one, after doing search on US Congressional members.
Instead of 'sigh', a very soft spoken put-down, why not utilize ' YAWN', meaning that the subject has been covered (greasy), 'yes I know, (greasy), and 'heard that'.
Folks wanna 'sigh', and no threats or covert insults (not sarcasm), no harm. But I like to counter with a similar soft-spoken 'lable'. 'Greasy' though, does sound a bit raw, coming from a large news ORG reporter.
RJSV:
Instead of solely complaining, maybe it helpful to mention my own view of what's a better way:
Go ahead and 'yawn', when subject of Hunter Biden and laptop contents comes up. Seen that, don't believe it...that's fine, your choice.
However: Please supplement that seemingly dismissive verbalization, by perhaps saying:
" Yawn, seen that, don't believe it (unreported income, from...), but then also say:
"Bring it on, that story has no legs, let's see what's the fuss, then".
THAT, is free and open discourse, according to many court rulings, of course, not permission to say, literally, anything.
Bringing up, asking for details about a Hunter Biden AIN'T about Hunter.
I guess using the term '7th grade level gossip's is dismissive (sorry), so any decent suggestions would be helpful.
As in 'dialog so obvious and chock full of mild insults / dismissals as to resemble young folk's gossip.'
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: MT on December 06, 2022, 03:51:49 am ---As noted previously Musk Neurolink brain chip was sued now the FED is looking into this case. In all, the company has killed about 1,500 animals, including more than 280 sheep, pigs and monkeys, following experiments since 2018! Bad Elon monkey , bad Elon monkey, now go to sit in the corner with dunce cap on you naughty hairless monkey.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/05/elon-musks-neuralink-faces-federal-probe-employee-backlash/
--- End quote ---
Yep. We should just let all the big names kill the monkeys, not Musk! How dare he. We own the monkeys and we want the world to know it!
Not that I don't find this Neurolink endeavour pretty questionable, but what I do know is that if it's not Musk, others will and it might be 10 times worse for all we know.
And the same people seem pretty silent when it comes to some big names killing a lot more animals and uh.. humans even.
wraper:
--- Quote from: MT on December 06, 2022, 03:51:49 am ---
As noted previously Musk Neurolink brain chip was sued now the FED is looking into this case. In all, the company has killed about 1,500 animals, including more than 280 sheep, pigs and monkeys, following experiments since 2018! Bad Elon monkey , bad Elon monkey, now go to sit in the corner with dunce cap on you naughty hairless monkey.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/05/elon-musks-neuralink-faces-federal-probe-employee-backlash/
--- End quote ---
Probing has nothing to do with "suing", there were some complains only. Not to say you cannot sue a chip :palm:.
RJSV:
There are ways, techniques, a person could employ, to begin to sort through things, when various accusations or seemingly 'rumour-mongering' is heard (in media).
I say 'media' because, defacto, that's what this discussion is about, Twitter being effectively a large media info distributor.
Statisticians know about this, and the more professional pollsters as well. The approach could include seemingly trivial things to measure; for example if you've spotted neighbor's CAT prowling, every day, in your yard and...God forbid, your birdcage gets raided one early morning. You know it's not 'proof', sure, but you have the numbers, statistics- ish, to suspect.
Bringing that CAT example closer to the Elon Musk debate, (here in this thread), by coincidence, it just hit the news, about Michael Avanatti...14 year sentence. That's a useful event, place to start looking and measuring.
I had done a curseary glance, not too familiar, but apparently Mr. Bannon was convicted of some money related wrongdoing...and so, first thing, first image was the handcuff thing:
'...Steve Bannon appears in federal court to answer charges...' was the news headline .
He gets to have his hand cuff shakles taken off, preparing for days court proceeding.
Perfect, place to start analysis. Because now, the next breaking news features Michael Avanatti, just sentenced to 14 years, yesterday.
Reason for the interest, is that those two former lawyers have been, heavily, associated with the two current 'camps'..., with varied coverage, as Musk has noted in similar events.
First thing, I saw was that photo, Bannon in handcuffs, with two officers right there alongside.
Tried to find similar court photo of Avanatti...No-go on that attempt. What I did come across, in the cursury hour spent looking, was, first thing, Avanatti (2019 photo), 3 years ago now. No hand-cuffs in court appearance.
Oh, and why such an old stock photo? The sentence being yesterday (Monday). I wonder how the handcuff dynamic played out YESTERDAY, and can't easily search that out.
That's the differing, or seemingly, treatment effect, that Musk has pointed out. You need not take sides, partisan style, to perceive that different handling.
Avanatti " has done good things, in life", the judge stated, along with handing down the 14 year prison sentence, yesterday.
No such quote coming up, in the Bannon conviction (my searches).
Another note, attempting to see things in neutral or non-partisan way, for numerical measuring, this morning:
In internet / news outlet TOP STORIES,
In the 9 headlines:
'Trump-linked' lawyer legal troubles...6 articles.
'Democrat-linked' lawyer Avanatti lega troubles (14 year sentence, yesterday)...3 articles.
Those are hard numbers, not some personal preference I brought to the search. The professionals, surely know how to apply that measuring or 'sampling' method, probably far from perfect.
But the professionals know how to filter somewhat, for factors I may have missed, like for example:
The nature of the crime(s) being under court trial might be, legally, dictating when and when not to 'handcuff' a person under trial.
Seemed to me, those two opposing camp lawyers were under very similar charges.
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