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| MT:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on December 18, 2022, 07:34:56 pm --- --- Quote from: MT on December 18, 2022, 07:18:28 pm ---Elon not the olny bad hairless monkey who kills hairy monky with monky brain chip but also Bezoz the bald bad monkey and Gates very bad covid19 vaxx monkey wants in to the brain chip monkey game via Australian monkey professors Tom Oxley and Nick Opie. https://www.theepochtimes.com/gates-bezos-invest-in-australian-designed-brain-implant_4927966.html?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=ZeroHedge&src_src=partner&src_cmp=ZeroHedge --- End quote --- As I said, Elon Musk does it exactly because he knows it will be done, and he wants to be first and do it the "right way". Whether it can be any better than what others do is yet to be seen, but that's kinda the idea. Anyway, a bunch of perverse weirdos do want normal people (so, not to treat any particular disability or disease) to get implanted, and they will do it. And some people, not just monkeys, will die along the way. That's not even 'if', that's a guarantee. --- End quote --- As I noted previoulsy "Bad monkey" as the end game/intent they all have is not what it seams, road to hell is painted with water collors of good intentions but when the first rain comes.... Elon have stated previoulsy he's all in with Technocracy, one example the whole "sustainability" statment appears numerous times in their 1932 manual. |
| Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: james_s on December 18, 2022, 06:20:07 pm --- --- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on December 18, 2022, 08:56:13 am --- --- Quote from: tom66 on December 18, 2022, 08:49:14 am ---It's been said before it's impossible to determine what is misinformation and what is genuine, because who moderates the moderators? Well, who determines what is private info and not? ElonJet is skirting the line between public and private, as another poster suggested, you have no right to privacy when in public (is a private jet's location public?) Regardless of whether it is a privacy violation, how do you police it? Because eventually you would have the risk of, e.g. an affair Elon had becoming public information. Is that "Elon's privacy" with posts relating to that to be squashed? What about one of his kids getting involved in a corruption scandal with the lithium mines in Bolivia? Is that privacy? A politician favourable to Elon needing some hush money covered up? --- End quote --- I think that spreading instantaneous, private personal location information is a different category for obvious reasons. --- End quote --- It doesn't matter what you think, it matters what the law says in the nation in which the event is taking place. There are written laws that determine what is legal and what is not. When a law contains ambiguity it is up to the courts to interpret it and determine if the law has been broken. --- End quote --- Yes. Of course. But Tom was not talking about laws. --- Quote from: tom66 on December 18, 2022, 08:49:14 am ---Regardless of whether it is a privacy violation, how do you police it? --- End quote --- Hence my response above. |
| vk6zgo:
--- Quote from: wraper on December 18, 2022, 06:21:27 pm --- --- Quote from: vad on December 18, 2022, 05:03:41 pm --- --- Quote from: wraper on December 18, 2022, 04:21:50 pm ---Again, publishing his location in real time is not the same as publishing information about his life after the fact. Also I've seen a good argument that private jets often use small aerodromes without security, so it becomes a very serious security risk. --- End quote --- The same argument applies to privacy of private citizens. I, for example, do not understand why a flight that I, my small children and 300 other souls boarded in couch class can be tracked in real time, while Musk’s jet should be untraceable. As I suggested few posts above, Elon should lobby Congress, European Commission, Australian Parliament, King Charles III, Emperor of Japan on banning ADS-B. --- End quote --- It's not that jet is untraceable, it is traceable. The problem is with knowledge about who is on that flight. The difference with you flying is that it's not public who is on your flight. Also if you read previous posts Elon was using Privacy ICAO Address (PIA) but this guy still figured it and made public. --- End quote --- They are tracing Musk's plane---there is no guarantee that he will be on it. Private aircraft often fly to various destinations, for varying reasons without the owner being aboard. Sending it off to multiple strange destinations would be a good, if costly, counter measure---similar subterfuges were used in much more deadly situations, like General Montgomery's "double" being flown to destinations far from where he really was, during WW2. This, of course, would only put off random Internet trolls. Real "Bad actors" can no doubt do their own research, using either modern methods, or old fashioned spy work. |
| vk6zgo:
--- Quote from: wraper on December 18, 2022, 06:26:06 pm --- --- Quote from: james_s on December 18, 2022, 06:21:57 pm --- --- Quote from: wraper on December 18, 2022, 04:21:50 pm ---Again, publishing his location in real time is not the same as publishing information about his life after the fact. Also I've seen a good argument that private jets often use small aerodromes without security, so it becomes a very serious security risk. --- End quote --- Then that's something the individual needs to take into consideration when arranging their security detail. Anybody wealthy enough to have a private jet can afford private security. What does the law say? Everything else is irrelevant. --- End quote --- Actually apparently it's illegal since Elon is also taking legal action against the guy. --- End quote --- That doesn't make it illegal, as if it was, the State would arrest him & prosecute him. It seems like Elon is suing him. If I was a twit, I could sue "RJ" for calling me a "political activist" in an earlier post, & maybe a good lawyer in his country or mine could make a case for the ridiculous proposition that somehow, I had been injured by his passing comment. What I can't do is call the cops on him. It seems that Musk can't do the latter, either, so civil action is the best recourse in his case, although his case is potentially much more serious than my silly hypothetical. |
| PlainName:
--- Quote ---It seems that Musk can't do the latter, either, so civil action is the best recourse in his case --- End quote --- I am missing something here. If Musk can take out a civil action, then (assuming he succeeds) what does it matter if the thing is or isn't illegal? If he wins then clearly it is wrong, even if not illegal. I get the impression the argument has degenerated to focus on "it's illegal" "no it's not" whereas what should be considered is just whether the chap shouldn't be doing it or it's perfectly acceptable. |
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