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RJSV:
james_s;. This is (one of) my main points, here, is that you can have a side, or personal interest, in these matters, but that can be put aside, temporarily.  That's how you've gotten to the point, of your applied logic, where a question comes up; if it's not happening, then why the fuss, over banning something, that folks profess to 'not being pursued here'.
   That's the thing 'the left' factions hate, blind logic applied, leading to, God forbid, a question, about the banning...of a non-thing.  Of course, I'm being clever, again, with sarcasm (or not so clever, lol).

   Alexandra Cortez, is one democrat being quoted, as saying "Republicans have been trying to ban our 1679 project, in our schools".  Folks dismiss her, as a 'radical' that republicans like to point to,...as if she has 'no influence', on current trends.  Biden listens, or appears to respond to that element.
So can't really make statement,...that that radical element of democratic party doesn't influence anybody.

tooki:
AOC, by the way, is a perfect example of what counts as “radical” in USA. She’s considered a “radical left” politician for views and positions that fall into completely mainstream left politics in Europe. Nothing she says would be considered extreme or radical here.

Zero999:

--- Quote from: tooki on December 22, 2022, 09:30:27 pm ---The problem is that CRT is yet another invented bogeyman, another thing the right has invented to get outraged at. (CRT exists, but has nothing to do with what the right has their panties in a twist over). The thing that angers me about the right’s tactics, like with CRT, is the blatant dishonesty. IF CRT actually contained what they claim it does, and if it were actually being taught in schools, I might object to it too. But neither of those things is true, and yet it’s used to vilify liberals wholesale. Like… it’s one thing to debate real issues.
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I have read enough CRT articles to know it's an extremist ideology and actually discriminates against black people, just as much as white. I don't need Fox or GB News to find that out.

It might not be taught in schools, under the name CRT, but there definitely appears to be many teachers taken in by the ideology and have introduced CRT-related concepts in the classroom. If it really isn't a problem, then the left wouldn't be complain when the right push for bills prohibiting the teaching of concepts such as white privilege, as a matter of fact, in classroom.

Note I'm not against children learning about CRT, just that it shouldn't be taught as fact, the same as any other ideology, whether it be Nazism, or Marxism. It's how it's being taught by some teaches, which is the problem.


--- Quote ---But the right doesn’t debate in good faith, they literally call the left “evil” and then invent things to support their position. I won’t abide that behavior.

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And the left are no better.

RJSV:
What I'm reading, here, and what I see, lately here in California Silicon Valley (nearby), they don't match.
   Critical race theory, I've been 'harassed' by a dept. store security guard, for wearing a ...(wait for it...),
Wearing a BLANK HAT, as that security person mulled over whether he was seeing 'M.A.G.A' on my hat front.
'mm..uh otherwise, we'd be having a problem!" he surmised.  Heck, you can't even wear a BLANK HAT, without getting harassed.

   The school 'murals', ditto, same thing, chip in the shoulder, don't you dare criticize a LGBT mural, or you get shouted down.

Ed.Kloonk:

--- Quote from: tooki on December 22, 2022, 09:40:32 pm ---AOC, by the way, is a perfect example of what counts as “radical” in USA. She’s considered a “radical left” politician for views and positions that fall into completely mainstream left politics in Europe. Nothing she says would be considered extreme or radical here.

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Gee, I hope not. I realize there's been a fair bit of water under the bridge since this..

https://time.com/5530386/aoc-amazon-new-york-hq2/


--- Quote ---Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez declared victory when Amazon announced Thursday that it would not build a second headquarters (known as HQ2) in Queens, New York. Gov. Andrew Cuomo called it a “lost economic opportunity” and blamed “a small group [of] politicians [who] put their own narrow political interests above their community.”
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--- Quote ---Additionally, he said, HQ2 would have brought “at least 25,000-40,000 good paying jobs for our state and nearly $30 billion dollars in new revenue to fund transit improvements, new housing, schools and countless other quality-of-life improvements.”
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EU can have her.

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