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Elon Musk is a nice chap
Zero999:
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--- Quote ---But if it's not true and it's not being taught then who cares if teaching it is banned?
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It's another rule to pad out the already huge rulebook which isn't needed. There is no sense in adding a rule which has no effect because it just adds noise. However, if it's like any other politically inspired rule it's a gateway to stuff that does have an effect. It's far easier to extend an existing rule than to create a new one (and you'll have noticed that major legislation that is pretty much agreed nearly always has additional amendments added for completely irrelevant stuff). An amendment to some rule that everyone thinks does nothing and has no effect could be a devastating backdoor mechanism.
Which is not to mention the ratcheting of getting something - anything - on the books so more restrictive stuff doesn't look so bad.
You should care about this type of thing, particularly because it seems pointless.
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I agree there are too many rules which aren't required, but how children are being taught complex, nuanced topics such as racial inequality, sex, climate change and gender, in state schools is important and needs to be regulated. Conservatives rightly complain about left wing teachers indoctrinating children with gender ideology and critical race theory, but the Left are also right to be concerned about religious teachers pushing creationism and intelligent design in science classes.
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--- Quote from: tooki on December 22, 2022, 09:40:32 pm ---AOC, by the way, is a perfect example of what counts as “radical” in USA. She’s considered a “radical left” politician for views and positions that fall into completely mainstream left politics in Europe. Nothing she says would be considered extreme or radical here.
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I find her extreme, and more so than that, extremely naive, childish and annoying. Fortunately most of the media ignores her so she is pretty much irrelevant, it's only my more conservative friends that talk about her.
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I can't speak for the rest of Europe . Not many are aware of her here, but most of those who are, consider her to be a left-wing extremist.
PlainName:
--- Quote ---most of those who are, consider her to be a left-wing extremist
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I think that's because they don't look at what she's actually saying but just see the media repeating her opponents saying she's a left-wing extremist. Case in point is the thing Ed.K posted about - if you bother to go and read the article and the study she references then it makes sense, but if you don't do that then the post just reinforces the view that she's an extremist.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: PlainName on December 23, 2022, 02:19:21 pm ---
--- Quote ---most of those who are, consider her to be a left-wing extremist
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I think that's because they don't look at what she's actually saying but just see the media repeating her opponents saying she's a left-wing extremist. Case in point is the thing Ed.K posted about - if you bother to go and read the article and the study she references then it makes sense, but if you don't do that then the post just reinforces the view that she's an extremist.
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Yes. I suppose the same could be said about Trump.
PlainName:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on December 23, 2022, 02:20:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: PlainName on December 23, 2022, 02:19:21 pm ---
--- Quote ---most of those who are, consider her to be a left-wing extremist
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I think that's because they don't look at what she's actually saying but just see the media repeating her opponents saying she's a left-wing extremist. Case in point is the thing Ed.K posted about - if you bother to go and read the article and the study she references then it makes sense, but if you don't do that then the post just reinforces the view that she's an extremist.
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Yes. I suppose the same could be said about Trump.
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I think Trump broadcast without any middlemen, so if anyone's to blame for his position it's surely him :)
However, I agree that often members of both sides are misquoted or quoted out of context for the headlines, and if you read their actual words it's not so bad (and sometimes completely different). Even Boris suffered that with the £350m for the NHS which he didn't actually say but is now de facto truth.
TimFox:
With respect to Trump tweets:
A recent book with interviews with Trump insiders mentioned that one said that when Trump first learned how to send his own tweets, it was like the scene from "Jurassic Park" when the dinosaurs figured out how to open doors.
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