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james_s:

--- Quote from: MadScientist on January 21, 2023, 07:36:13 pm ---Whether you think it’s stupid is irrelevant. Many countries family law accept evidence where a couple demonstrates living together that both parties have responsibilities   Yes people can of course “ walk away but they cannot escape their responsibilities either. Family law is clear on that , say you’ve been financially supporting your partner for a long time , irrespective of formal marriage an order can be issued to force you to continue that support for a period etc.  yes it’s not the same protection as being married but there is support in many legal jurisdictions for abandoned partners etc.  asset division orders can also be made in certain cases , family law in many countries is extremely powerful and robust

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People should consider those things before they enter into a formal marriage. I know commonlaw marriage is a thing but IMO that is outdated and needs to change. Women can have careers these days, they can support themselves. It is absolutely crazy that a person can voluntarily walk away from a relationship, cheat, etc and their partner can end up having to give them assets or support. I see no reason for commonlaw to exist though, if a couple wants to combine assets then get married, if they want the legal protections in the event of a breakup then get married. If they didn't get married then why should the state treat them as if they did? If they're not married then they're just two people living together and it should be treated no differently from a legal standpoint than roommates.
MadScientist:

--- Quote from: james_s on January 22, 2023, 01:10:06 am ---
--- Quote from: MadScientist on January 21, 2023, 07:36:13 pm ---Whether you think it’s stupid is irrelevant. Many countries family law accept evidence where a couple demonstrates living together that both parties have responsibilities   Yes people can of course “ walk away but they cannot escape their responsibilities either. Family law is clear on that , say you’ve been financially supporting your partner for a long time , irrespective of formal marriage an order can be issued to force you to continue that support for a period etc.  yes it’s not the same protection as being married but there is support in many legal jurisdictions for abandoned partners etc.  asset division orders can also be made in certain cases , family law in many countries is extremely powerful and robust

In fairness it’s most usual where children have resulted even though no official marriage has occurred

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People should consider those things before they enter into a formal marriage. I know commonlaw marriage is a thing but IMO that is outdated and needs to change. Women can have careers these days, they can support themselves. It is absolutely crazy that a person can voluntarily walk away from a relationship, cheat, etc and their partner can end up having to give them assets or support. I see no reason for commonlaw to exist though, if a couple wants to combine assets then get married, if they want the legal protections in the event of a breakup then get married. If they didn't get married then why should the state treat them as if they did? If they're not married then they're just two people living together and it should be treated no differently from a legal standpoint than roommates.

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This is not about common law marriage   Where I live there is no common law marriage. Common Law marriage is in effect a legal acceptable of marriage or a defacto  state of marriage  existed

What family law typically does is accept evidence that a relationship may have
Existed and that in some cases financial supper was provided. So where a wife supported the income of a partner would be take intp account and an order could be made that such support continue for a period of time.

It’s not the same as civil marriage but family law typically accepts evidence of Co habitation and therefore looks of the situation

In my view it’s right and proper if two people live together for a considerable find and get financially interwoven then one party can’t just walk away without consequences.
TimFox:
In the US, the tradition of common-law marriage (now legal in only a few States, as I listed in a previous post in this thread) arose due to rural populations that were located far from a magistrate, justice of the peace, or clergyman.

Edit:  fixed typo.
Kjelt:
https://bits-chips.nl/artikel/thanks-elon-well-take-it-from-here/
EEVblog:
Elon came through on his promise to monetise creators.
Once this is proven to work, watch people fall over themselves to tweet like mad.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1621544497388875777
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