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Eradicating Google from my online life
ataradov:
--- Quote from: luudee on November 12, 2023, 01:07:08 pm ---I am not sure, moving from Google to Amazon, is a better move. I have read more
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I did not use google for hosting. I don't even think they have a product like this for individuals.
But there is a reason why AWS runs half the internet. I tried to use smaller hosting providers and they could not even run my one page site reliably.
zilp:
--- Quote from: ataradov on November 12, 2023, 04:04:02 pm ---But there is a reason why AWS runs half the internet. I tried to use smaller hosting providers and they could not even run my one page site reliably.
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Your experience is not representative.
Also, the reason why AWS runs half the internet probably has more to do with lock-in and incompetence on the part of customers than with their superior quality, especially relative to the price.
Hetzner, to take a well-known more traditional hosting company (i.e., "pre cloud"), certainly provides reliable hosting, and that orders of magnitude cheaper. For example, Hetzner charges 1 EUR per TB of outbound traffic. AWS charges 90 USD. And Hetzner certainly aren't the only ones, and also not necessarily the best ones.
ataradov:
--- Quote from: zilp on November 12, 2023, 04:42:56 pm ---Hetzner, to take a well-known more traditional hosting company (i.e., "pre cloud"), certainly provides reliable hosting,
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Ok, I should clarify here. I'm aware that there are stable established companies. But there is really no equivalent service from any of them. The closest Hetzner service is 45 euro/mo. It is possible that with different scale, it will make more sense. You get a lot more performance for that price, of course. But I don't need that performance and my bandwidth consumption is minuscule. They do have managed web hosting for much cheaper, but I need access to the OS.
With Lightstail I pay $5-6. And other services at a similar <$10/mo price point are really bad.
I'm no fan of huge corporations, but that's the good part about AWS - they have extreme flexibility and variety of services.
Just for comparison, the server I rent from amazon is "1 GB RAM, 1 vCPU, 30 GB SSD". This is all I need and I can't imagine that adding a lot of drain to anyone's infrastructure. But other companies don't bother to create those lower tier services.
zilp:
--- Quote from: ataradov on November 12, 2023, 05:12:20 pm ---With Lightstail I pay $5-6. And other services at a similar <$10/mo price point are really bad.
I'm no fan of huge corporations, but that's the good part about AWS - they have extreme flexibility and variety of services.
Just for comparison, the server I rent from amazon is "1 GB RAM, 1 vCPU, 30 GB SSD". This is all I need and I can't imagine that adding a lot of drain to anyone's infrastructure. But other companies don't bother to create those lower tier services.
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Uh ... I mean, "vCPU" is somewhat ambiguous, but: https://www.hetzner.com/de/cloud ?
2 GB RAM, 1 "vCPU", 20 GB SSD, 4.51 EUR p.m., incl. 19% German VAT, 3.92 EUR if you don't need IPv4. Also includes 20 TB of traffic.
Similar products from OVH: https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/vps/
2 GB RAM, 1 "vCPU", 20 GB SSD, 4.20 USD p.m., with 100 Mb/s unmetered.
Similar products from united internet: https://cloud.ionos.com/servers/vps
1 GB RAM, 1 "vCPU", 10 GB SSD, 2 USD p.m., with 1 Gb/s unmetered.
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ataradov:
--- Quote from: zilp on November 12, 2023, 05:44:50 pm ---Uh ... I mean, "vCPU" is somewhat ambiguous, but: https://www.hetzner.com/de/cloud ?
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Yes, this is it.
I'll have to try that and see how it compares.
With ionos.com clicking on any of the "Configure" buttons results in "Sorry, this page is currently not available! We are working to correct this issue as quickly as possible. In the meantime, should you have any questions please contact our Customer Hotline.". It looks like it only happens when selecting US based servers.
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