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[SOLVED] Ericsson slammed me with a Copyright Strike on a Teardown video, help!?
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peter-h:
Youtube will always cave in. They don't want any hassle.

If you want to avoid this you have to use another hosting option. It may be that Vimeo are more robust (as well as a much better quality hosting service than Youtube). Otherwise just self host it. Set up a server; you can get 100GB+ for $10/month.

The stuff about copyright and IPR is bollox.
janoc:
Here is a video of how it works for the cars. There are entire companies specialized in tearing down cars and writing extensive reports on everything they have found - every bolt, weld, bearing, .... The manufacturers can either commission them to do a teardown or simply buy a report from the shelf if the car has been analyzed before.

Tesla Model 3 teardown:


janoc:

--- Quote from: peter-h on February 09, 2020, 06:41:42 pm ---Youtube will always cave in. They don't want any hassle.

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They have to. It is the law in the US (and now also in Europe). If they don't take it down when notified, they would become liable for any copyright violation the uploader may have committed. And given the possible penalties, pretty much nobody is going to do that.

The law is stacked heavily in favor of the copyright owners (there is no need for the notifying party to provide any evidence to get content taken down, only state the claim and declare that they are allowed to act on  behalf of the rights owner) but that's not really Google's/Youtube's fault in this case.
Red Squirrel:

--- Quote from: janoc on February 09, 2020, 07:45:07 pm ---
--- Quote from: peter-h on February 09, 2020, 06:41:42 pm ---Youtube will always cave in. They don't want any hassle.

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They have to. It is the law in the US (and now also in Europe). If they don't take it down when notified, they would become liable for any copyright violation the uploader may have committed. And given the possible penalties, pretty much nobody is going to do that.

The law is stacked heavily in favor of the copyright owners (there is no need for the notifying party to provide any evidence to get content taken down, only state the claim and declare that they are allowed to act on  behalf of the rights owner) but that's not really Google's/Youtube's fault in this case.

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Yeah this is definitely part of the problem and that really needs to change.  The host should not be held liable at very least.  But also the law needs to change so that frivolous claims actually hold a risk.   IMO the way it should work is if you sue for X amount, but you lose the case, you need to give that amount two fold to the defendant + some kind of fixed administrative fee + the defendant's lost money from having to be at court, ex: salary, travel expenses etc.  There needs to be a risk involved.  Of course if it's a cut and dry case then there is less risk, but it would help prevent all the more ridiculous or questionable cases. 
langwadt:

--- Quote from: peter-h on February 09, 2020, 06:41:42 pm ---Youtube will always cave in. They don't want any hassle.


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that's how the DMCA protects hosters, if they remove stuff when someone claims copyright they are safe,
if they keep it up they can be sued if there is a violation

I don't see how other hosters than Youtube will be any different
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