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[SOLVED] Ericsson slammed me with a Copyright Strike on a Teardown video, help!?
borjam:
This happened in Germany. I am Spanish and I am *not* a lawyer. Of course I have no clue about legal differences with Denmark.
And I am writing from memory.
Years ago, the ailing SCO Group tried to extort money from companies using Linux systems claiming patent infringement.
Curiously, SCO did not specify which patents were being violated. So it was a surreal situation in which the defendant would be unable to fight the case.
If I remember well, a German court ordered them to provide a list of the patents they claimed were being violated or withdraw the claims. It seems that malicious litigation is taken very seriously in German law.
Turns out, SCO withdrew in Germany.
(Added) Groklaw, the website that covered this kerfufle thoroughly, still exists.
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20071113135529406
I have no idea how it is in Denmark, though. But a malicious threat of litigation might be an offense there?
Still speaking as a non lawyer, a patent is a dual edged sword. It provides legal protection against unauthorized use of your invention but it is incompatible with secrecy because, well, patents are published in the first place.
Bud:
--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on February 06, 2020, 03:59:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bud on February 05, 2020, 10:37:32 pm ---Big deal ! Just remove the video and go on with your life. What is so special in it that may worth a fight.
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Give me $20 or I'll punch you. It's not worth the fight, just pay.
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That is a strawman. Look it up in you favourite dictionary if you do not know what strawman argument is.
james_s:
Not really, it's a pretty accurate assessment. Every time someone just rolls over and takes it, companies are encouraged to continue this sort of bullying.
It's like not bothering to call the police when somebody steals something from you, it emboldens other thieves. Fuck anybody who tries to push me around, I'm happy to spend $1000 worth of effort fighting something that would cost me $10 to just accept.
Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: Bud on February 06, 2020, 04:55:08 pm ---That is a strawman. Look it up in you favourite dictionary if you do not know what strawman argument is.
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Calling strawman to avoid having to actually refute anything seems to be quite popular nowadays. The comparison is relevant. Someone threatens you unreasonably with undue force and your advice is to back down because it's the easy way way out. It's only $20 and you won't miss it. But it's wrong and does represent a loss, just like removing a teardown does. It also means the bully can come back for more whenever he wants. There's a good chance these lawyers represent more similar companies.
madsbarnkob:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on February 06, 2020, 10:09:00 am ---
--- Quote from: madsbarnkob on February 05, 2020, 09:36:11 pm ---I got the contact information on a senior group legal counselor at Ericsson, I will contact that person and talk in details about "Patents, Copyrights/Trademarks or Trade Secrets" that they base this on. From a viewpoint that there must be a mistake. I am not going offensive at first, that leads nowhere.
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Please let us know how it goes. If you get no reply I'll do a video calling them out on it.
Also, contact several of the Youtube lawyers, they do videos about this stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzGiDDKdphJ0GFvEd82WfYQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpa-Zb0ZcQjTCPP1Dx_1M8Q
https://www.youtube.com/user/IanCorzine
https://www.youtube.com/user/ljfrench009
And make sure you have a backup video uploaded somewhere else it can't be touched, like LBRY, so that people can watch it for reference.
Every Youtuber should be auto backing up videos on LBRY and Bitchute at a minimum.
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Thank you very much Dave. It means the world to me, the support and love a electronics nerd can get from fellows here on eevblog forum :-+
Youtube has been contacted with question about the vagueness of their claim
Ericsson lawyer has been contacted via email, asking them kindly to explain this mistake and finding a solution.
Just as a note for someone else that asked about what I showed: Only showed hardware, no schematics, no manuals, only video of it getting taken apart and pictures where I labelled the ICs with their most interesting specs. Thats it.
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