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EU mandantory chat control
MadScientist:
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--- Quote from: MadScientist on December 29, 2022, 09:01:40 pm ---No eu law can violate the eu treaties
Enforcement is carried out by the member state in the normal way
It’s an extremely democratic process , all decision makers are elected , the commission merely acts as a civil servants
Eu law has been at the forefront of equality fairness and general anti national dogma
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:bullshit:
What you say here is complete and utter myths. EU is not democratic but all about elite supremacy.Every single country in EU are dodging EU laws as much as they can,
evidently so by their own justice system reports on the actual dodging and complaints from EU supremacy headquarters. The later form of "EU supremacy" origins from
the German Nazi party who built it on various "supremacy ideas" originating from the 1800 national industrialization movement era , "eugenics" for example , EU today
is completely taken over by WEF/WHO Schwab nazis. eg mandatory vaccination, vaccination passports straight out of the nazi manual with no regard for e.g Hippocratic Oath
and Nuremberg Code who dictates the "demand of voluntary consent of participants in medical experiments" because of what the nazi and Bholsevikis did in WW2. So there you go!
So called democratic EU during 2020-22 push for mandatory vaccination with experimental chemical compounds where the content held secret is a direct violation of mentioned
Hippocratic Oath and Nuremberg Code no matter any fucking EU laws. Here, educate your self abut the Schwab nazi, his great reset book. https://archive.org/details/schwab-the-great-reset
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No system is perfect but you have no idea now the EU makes laws. The chat proposal is merely just that it’s already been ruled as against the rights charter by the ecj, the council of ministers is not considering the proposal as the general view is the rcj would simply violate any such law
It’s a kite flying exercise that all’s
Ps the EU did not push for mandatory vaccinations , it’s simply cannot overrule national governments in medical matters. The treaties are clear . No country I aware in the EU had full mandatory vaccination policy , furthermore the covid pass was a good idea , again it wasn’t mandatory
Your nazi comments are just utter BS you need. To get out more and give up reading BS websites
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: jonpaul on December 31, 2022, 02:42:25 pm ---"You have no privacy anyway, Get over it!"
Scott McNely ceo Sun Microsystems 1999
Jin
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"Si vous n'avez rien à cacher, il ne faut pas avoir peur!"
- Klaus S.
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MadScientist:
--- Quote from: Infraviolet on December 30, 2022, 03:40:45 pm ---I'm not sure quite what the latest reply adds to this thread, detailing how the EU passes directives doesn;t really talk much about the underlying issues, that is to say the dire threat to free speech and privacy rights.
I think that since governments (nearly everywhere globaly, not just in the EU) overreacted (that is my opinion, please don't take it the wrong way) to covid with extraordinarily totalitarian panic-induced (politicians logic, "we must do something", "that is something","we must do that") measures they've felt emboldened to try to force anything they want on to populations (look at the Oxford "berlin wall for cars" zones plan). Thankfully a proportion of the population have, since the same events, felt both emboldened and proud to ignore intrusive government diktats. So what we're looking at is a future where governments make legislation nobody likes, and increasing numbers of people form a "counterculture" which simply ignores those diktats. As long as a few talented people perform basic software maintenance to keep a few open source truly secure and censorship free communication platforms up and running in violation of surveillance diktats, then the numbers of people dropping away from the controlled platforms will rise epxonetnailly over time. I'd like to see if Musk would be bold enough to make twitter in to such a defiant platform.
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Actually in my view based on where I live the experience of covid is such that lockdowns etc will never be tried again. Gov has basically said it’s unpopular with poor results. I live in a democracy , politicians get voted out quick. My minister of health lives 4 doors down from me, I had a pint with him recently. These people know what popular and what’s not. We do not live in a diktat state. I live in a country that will be the 10th wealthy in the world in 2023 ( big pharma and tech ) a lot of that wealth is as a result of EU membership. The EU approval here is running close to 80% and we by law must vote on every eu treaty so we have a referendum nearly every year on the eu
The EU is the best thing that happened in the last 40 years long may it continue get better and include more countries. The uk will come back in in time , it’s inevitable
Bud:
So if you are so proud of your country can we now know what that wonderful place is?
Infraviolet:
Indeed you do sound optimistic about the future, and about the EU. I was too, back when the EU would strike down Theresa May's surveillance diktats and stand up for human rights in every UK case that got before the Brussels courts. Since 2020 it hasn't been the same though, the EU should have struck down lockdowns as a human rights violation, the EU should have banned vaccine passports as a sinister tool of surveillance with no medical value (unlike the vaccines themselves which have helped vulnerable people), and yet the EU now wants unified facial recognition and fingerprinting for all travellers entering the Schengen area, it now wants pervasive censorship on the internet of anything its politicians disagree with, it wants to assist the Dutch government in mass closures of farms... 2020 changed them and it sounds like they are no longer the organisation which i voted to remain in during 2016.
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