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eugene:

--- Quote from: tom66 on May 13, 2022, 03:34:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: eugene on May 13, 2022, 03:26:50 pm ---I'm curious about something. If the EU Commission can write laws, how do they enforce those laws? Laws mean nothing if they cannot be enforced.

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Once the law is passed by the EU Parliament it is enforced by the agencies that the Commission operates and oversees.

This is really not any different to how any government enforces laws: they pay police officers, detectives, judges, prisons...

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So the independent EU countries are not only bound to laws written by the EU Commission, but are required to use their own criminal justice system to enforce those laws?

That seems wrong to me ideologically. But I suppose if everyone agrees to it...

Miyuki:

--- Quote from: dave j on May 13, 2022, 03:43:45 pm ---
--- Quote from: magic on May 13, 2022, 01:11:41 pm ---Indeed, I have always been in favor of Brexit for similar reasons.
France and Germany need to go next >:D

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Don't kid yourself.

All EU countries propose/support legislation at the EU level that they know will be unpopular at home and then, when the time comes to implement it in their nation's laws, claim the EU made them do it. The UK were at least as keen exploiters of such behaviour as anyone else when they were members.

Like all the 'evil EU introducing mad/bad laws' stories, this legislation didn't come from the EU commissioners, it came from the MEPs who asked them to produce it.

As @themadhippy said, a UK government will try to introduce something even worse in the UK. They've already had a go on a couple of occasions already.

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Oh, of course
They must pass this new law because of that bad EU  ::)
Pretty common
Even when it never was the real truth. It always was just a recommendation or way milder regulation was required.

tszaboo:

--- Quote from: eugene on May 13, 2022, 03:57:53 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on May 13, 2022, 03:34:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: eugene on May 13, 2022, 03:26:50 pm ---I'm curious about something. If the EU Commission can write laws, how do they enforce those laws? Laws mean nothing if they cannot be enforced.

--- End quote ---

Once the law is passed by the EU Parliament it is enforced by the agencies that the Commission operates and oversees.

This is really not any different to how any government enforces laws: they pay police officers, detectives, judges, prisons...

--- End quote ---

So the independent EU countries are not only bound to laws written by the EU Commission, but are required to use their own criminal justice system to enforce those laws?

That seems wrong to me ideologically. But I suppose if everyone agrees to it...

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EU law takes primacy over national laws. While this might look strange, it is actually a great way of preventing your national lawmakers doing some shady things, like they are always trying.
Everyone has rights to basic human decency, child support, social security, vacation days, and nobody is murdered by the juridical system. It's great. You guys should try it, maybe the US wouldn't be such a miserable place.

Anyway, this seems to go against the recent GDPR and anti data hoarding that the EU was implementing as a law. Having a proposal means nothing. You tell annoying people to write a proposal, so they are busy with it, instead of japping about it constantly.

BravoV:

--- Quote from: eugene on May 13, 2022, 03:26:50 pm ---I'm curious about something. If the EU Commission can write laws, how do they enforce those laws? Laws mean nothing if they cannot be enforced.

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It will be enforced, it must be, as this is the preparation steps as the tsunami of hardship is coming to EU countries, as criticizing or opposing voices must be crushed, hence this policy. Look what happened in Canada on the truck protesters and their supporters, freshly just few months ago.

Just watch this 15 minutes commentaries on the ongoing complete deindustrialisation of Germany that is happening now, as hard times are coming.

PKTKS:
WTF is that...   

so every device now with a cam and mic will be monitored as well ?

have not proper insults for that..

Paul

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