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EU votes to mandate removable batteries in smartphones

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kripton2035:

--- Quote from: Tomorokoshi on June 19, 2023, 04:23:01 am ---I replaced the batteries in old iPhones with $20 kits that included both the battery and the tool. It takes me an hour. They last just fine.
Regarding replaceability, for the iPhone anyway it's a few screws, the tape that is removed using by pulling on the special tab, and then it comes out. It actually isn't that hard do to.

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this was true for older phones (and iphones) it's not true anymore for actual iphones.
the battery becomes a nightmare to replace, even for people that have the skill AND the tools to do it
you need special tools to heat the device and actually be able to unglue it.
and you must glue the device back once you changed the battery.

wilfred:
They should go even further with power tools and domestic appliances like vacuum cleaners having a standard off-the-shelf compatible battery pack. Then you could go to the shop and buy a replacement from about 5 or 6 different ones. No more throwing away perfectly servicable tools (or batteries) for want of an easy reasonably priced and readily available replacement.

You wouldn't need a drawer full of chargers, or a bench covered in different chargers.

Ultimately I'd like to see EVs with replaceable battery modules so that when a secondhand vehicle is sold you can upgrade the very expensive and probably no-longer available battery to get another 10 years life. EVs ought to have longer life due to lack of a complex mechanical drivetrain.

With what goes on with ink cartridges, toner cartridges, razor refills. and any number of replaceable wear items like mower blades, filters and so on, mandated standards could have been done 50 years ago. If a drill bit can fit a drill made 100 years ago it shows it can be done.

tom66:
Without looking at the video, would two screws (of a standard type) and a normal PCB connector be acceptable for a 'removable' configuration?  It would allow manufacturers to create thin, water-resistant phones (no need to build e.g. plastic clipping backs with complex seals) whilst complying with the spirit of the law.

Generally I'm in favour of giving private industry a 'push' in the right direction.  It's worked well in the past, see for instance vehicle safety requirements.  ADAS cameras are now standard, they used to add 1,500 euros to the cost of a car but because they're fitted to practically every medium size car upwards they have plummeted in price.  They're only fitted because Euro NCAP won't give you five stars if you don't have lane departure and pedestrian avoidance.


--- Quote from: wilfred on June 19, 2023, 06:54:35 am ---They should go even further with power tools and domestic appliances like vacuum cleaners having a standard off-the-shelf compatible battery pack. Then you could go to the shop and buy a replacement from about 5 or 6 different ones. No more throwing away perfectly servicable tools (or batteries) for want of an easy reasonably priced and readily available replacement.
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Yes!  This!  Why does every power tool maker create their own 18V battery system?  I should be able to use a Makita battery on a Bosch drill if I damn well want to. 

AndyC_772:
I'm sure you can use an adapter if you want, but in any case I don't think power tools are really a problem. If the battery I happen to be using on my DeWalt drill fails, I can just buy a new one and swap it in seconds. The battery isn't such an integral part of the drill that I have to throw away an otherwise serviceable drill, nor is it so expensive that it makes sense to buy a new drill kit including a battery anyway.

Jeroen3:
I don't know how they do it, but 500 pages rambling about batteries.
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2023-0237_EN.pdf

From the looks of it their main focus is the growing EV and other e-mobility markets which is a rampant problem with a lot of high capacity batteries with a short lifetime. Sometimes irremavable or flammable.


--- Quote from: page 177 ---The obligations laid down in paragraph 1 shall not apply where continuity of power
supply is necessary and a permanent connection between the product and the
respective portable battery is required to ensure the safety of the user and the
appliance or, for products that collect and supply data as their main function, for
data integrity reasons.
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So, that applies to phones right, right?  :P

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