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EU votes to mandate removable batteries in smartphones

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NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: wilfred on June 19, 2023, 06:54:35 am ---They should go even further with power tools and domestic appliances like vacuum cleaners having a standard off-the-shelf compatible battery pack. Then you could go to the shop and buy a replacement from about 5 or 6 different ones. No more throwing away perfectly servicable tools (or batteries) for want of an easy reasonably priced and readily available replacement.

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Ryobi already did it, you can use a new battery on a 15 year old drill or an old battery (if you somehow still had one that works) on a new tool.

--- Quote from: nctnico on June 19, 2023, 12:55:50 pm ---Why would you want battery operated tools anyway? For construction workers that have no outlet available it may make sense but for around the house a corded tool is easier.

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You answered your own question, extend that to any situation where it's bothersome to run a cord. That said, I really want to see a lot more combo corded/cordless tools.

eugene:

--- Quote from: nctnico on June 19, 2023, 12:55:50 pm ---Why would you want battery operated tools anyway?

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For the same reason that I haven't bought a desktop computer in at least 15 years.

ebastler:

--- Quote from: eugene on June 19, 2023, 02:09:46 pm ---Honestly, I don't know what the issue is anyway. I typically keep a phone for two or three years [...]

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That's the issue right there. ;)

Discarding a phone after only two or three years is wasteful. Why do you replace it after such a short time? I have not observed rapid technical progress over the past decade which would justify that. Weakening battery performance or lack of software upgrades seem the likely candidates -- and both are entirely due to the manufacturers' unwillingness to support their products through a decent lifecycle.

eugene:
You make a good point. I typically replace phones that often because they're beat up by then and need replacement. I don't like those thick rubber cases since I carry it in my front pants pocket.

Phones could be made more durable so as to last perhaps twice as long, but then they would cost twice as much.  :D

Infraviolet:
"two screws (of a standard type) and a normal PCB connector be acceptable for a 'removable' configuration?"
Definitely ought to, always more maintainable than things which try to have a tool-less snap fit connection. The sort of people who don't own even basic screwdrivers are the sort of people who'd never even imagine thinking about fixing (or doing anything at all) anything for themselves.

Whilst at it, ban snap fit connections on the housing of electronic devices, screws everywhere so you can open and close them without risking shattering them.

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