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| tszaboo:
--- Quote from: james_s on June 19, 2023, 06:58:31 pm --- --- Quote from: tszaboo on June 19, 2023, 05:40:29 pm ---Yes, it absolutely is. The consumers have absolutely no way of swaying large corporations in matters like this. Think of the USBC mandate solving all kinds of issues with chargers. I still have these multi-adapter cables with 11 different eds for Alcatel, Nokia Sony, micro, mini Iphone and other connectors. It was an absolute mess. I have a phone, it's like 3-4 years old and the only reason to replace it is the battery. Disassembly is super inconvenient with a heat gun, removing glue and so on. As near as 8 years ago we were still making phones that had replaceable battery. --- End quote --- There are only a couple of different connectors on phones now for around a decade, Apple has their lightning connector and everything else is micro USB or more recently USB-C, and all of these cords terminate on the other end with USB A or C. The government didn't need to mandate anything here, the market already settled on something and as usual the government is a decade behind. At some point in the future when USB-C is long obsolete it will still be mandated by these laws which will still be at least a decade behind. --- End quote --- You might be mistaking the cause and effect. They have been talking about this for more than a decade, originally it was microUSB they were targeting: https://www.engadget.com/2010-12-29-european-standardization-bodies-formalize-micro-usb-cellphone-ch.html They standardized because the initiation of the EU Commission, not by themselves. Long time ago, you could find Nokia BL-5C batteries in more than 50 different phones. Nowadays they seem to fart out 12 different phones every season with a slight difference in screen size (only 6 inch and up of course), with slight variation in the chipset and camera. Man camera bumps are so ugly nowadays, and it's only getting worse. |
| tszaboo:
--- Quote from: woody on June 19, 2023, 06:55:16 pm --- --- Quote from: nctnico on June 19, 2023, 12:55:50 pm ---Why would you want battery operated tools anyway? --- End quote --- Because I want to be able to use my drill/screw driver/jigsaw in the garden, in the attic, on the roof or in my boat without having to find an extension cord and a working outlet. Because I hate standing on a ladder mounting plasterboard to a ceiling and having to make sure all the while I do not trip over the bloody cord every time I move. I find the expression 'best invention since sliced bread' very much applicable to cordless electric tools. And since the NiCad/NiMH batteries made way for LiIon I find that I am able to use these cordless tools forever. They just keep going between charges, do not lose their charge while sitting on a shelf for months and they do not seem to wear out at all. --- End quote --- Yeah, batteries make sense for power tools. I usually draw the line wheter or not I buy something with a battery (Bosch, so it's compatible with the rest) if I use it less than 1x a year or it's a power hungry tool like an angle grinder or a hammer drill. They exist with a battery pack, but I would rather have a 1000 W power drill than something underpowered. Those 18650s top out at about 80W each, and that's at 10C rate. |
| sokoloff:
--- Quote from: kripton2035 on June 19, 2023, 06:13:42 am --- --- Quote from: Tomorokoshi on June 19, 2023, 04:23:01 am ---I replaced the batteries in old iPhones with $20 kits that included both the battery and the tool. It takes me an hour. They last just fine. Regarding replaceability, for the iPhone anyway it's a few screws, the tape that is removed using by pulling on the special tab, and then it comes out. It actually isn't that hard do to. --- End quote --- this was true for older phones (and iphones) it's not true anymore for actual iphones. the battery becomes a nightmare to replace, even for people that have the skill AND the tools to do it you need special tools to heat the device and actually be able to unglue it. and you must glue the device back once you changed the battery. --- End quote --- I’ve swapped batteries in a half-dozen modern iPhones (X through 12) for family members, buttons in my XSMax, and a few screens (X through 13). The heat source I used was an entirely ordinary hair dryer. The replacement glue/gaskets usually center with the part or are about $0.80 from China. I order a stack of them to cover every phone my family uses. IMO, it’s not even difficult, let alone “nightmare”. At worst, it’s slightly time-consuming (a battery might take me 30 minutes start-to-finish). |
| tom66:
--- Quote from: Monkeh on June 19, 2023, 07:39:58 pm ---Actually, I have a battery SDS specifically for drilling brick - it's a lot more capable than a combi, no more duplication of bits, and I don't have to drag a giant case and 25m extension any time I want to drill a hole. I wouldn't go running a 40mm TCT core with it, of course, but I wouldn't go drilling a 250mm diamond core with my corded SDS, either. The only people who find corded tools more convenient for light duty are the ones who leave them in a drawer 360 days of the year - which is where my corded SDS lives. And my corded combi. And my corded circular saw. And the corded angle grinder. All of these I have cordless alternatives for, all of which have been out and about several times this month just for odd jobs at home. --- End quote --- My house is made of bricks that are approximately as tough as hardened diamond. I have spent a good 15 minutes drilling one 15mm hole with the 1200W SDS. When my electrician friend came over, he offered to use his DeWalt SDS with a 4.0Ah battery to get the 6mm^2 SWA through for the EV charger. After the first battery was exhausted I just suggested we get the circuit in the garage up and running and drill carefully with the corded SDS. That still took a while, but no battery to run out. If you live in a house made mostly of engineering brick, rather than a 1930s build, you may have better experiences, but for me, a corded SDS is about the only corded power tool I'll have. This probably should be the last diversion about power tools, we are way off topic ;). |
| Brumby:
--- Quote from: David Hess on June 19, 2023, 05:25:44 pm --- --- Quote from: Halcyon on June 19, 2023, 03:19:21 am ---I wonder what the tradeoff will be? Smaller capacity batteries? Lower quality so the manufacturer can sell more replacements? --- End quote --- If you listen to the manufacturers, the result will be dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria! --- End quote --- Who you gonna call? !! :-DD |
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