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Red Squirrel:
Unfortunately I think it's inevitable that we see a km tax everywhere once EVs go mainstream.  Governments are going to lose a big source of revenue and they're not going to be happy about that.  Not only the regular sales tax on fuel, but the regular gas tax and the carbon tax. Almost half of the cost of gas is taxes.  I can see them eventually do the same with solar.  When you're not paying for hydro, the government is losing out in sales tax as well as income tax from the income the hydro company is losing out on. In PEI they already do charge tax on solar.  Not too sure how it works but I do recall an article about an off grid couple that got nailed with that.

eti:
Repeating something doesn't make it come to pass, no matter how much one wants it to. Fait accompli, it ain't, dear friends.

EV is a disastrous fumbling eco greenwash blunder bullshit brainwash.

nctnico:

--- Quote from: tom66 on February 19, 2023, 02:17:04 pm ---It's a typical anti-EV policy by a government that's opposed to them for various reasons.  From a quick Google it appears that Victoria state has huge oil and gas refining and resource, so you can imagine the lobbyists have a lot of influence.

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It is not anti-EV policy. The reality is that traditionally a lot of taxes are collected through the sales of fuel in order to have people who travel a lot, pay more to maintain the roads. There is nothing wrong with that and BEV owners will have to pay their share of the costs for keeping the roads in good order. BEV taxes are inevitable; the lack thereoff is simply a form of subsidy which will have to end at some point. In the Netherlands BEV owners will start paying road taxes after next year for example and likely there will be a tax per km as well coming soon.

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: tom66 on February 19, 2023, 02:17:04 pm ---It's a typical anti-EV policy by a government that's opposed to them for various reasons.

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Nonsense. The current lack of taxes on EVs is a subsidy benefiting EVs.

Some people seem to see every phenomenon through the blinkers of their prejudices. For some those prejudices are religious ("it's a miracle!"). For others it is political ("remoaners", "capitalist pigs"). For others it is gender and/or sex. You are the same, although your prejudice is different.

Someone has to pay for the roads. Currently in the UK the payment is indirect through taxes on ICE fuel. That works: easy to collect and proportional to usage. That isn't a bad starting point for the future. I believe removing the subsidy on BEVs will have to happen, and it won't be unpopular.

tom66:

--- Quote from: nctnico on February 19, 2023, 11:31:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on February 19, 2023, 02:17:04 pm ---It's a typical anti-EV policy by a government that's opposed to them for various reasons.  From a quick Google it appears that Victoria state has huge oil and gas refining and resource, so you can imagine the lobbyists have a lot of influence.

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It is not anti-EV policy. The reality is that traditionally a lot of taxes are collected through the sales of fuel in order to have people who travel a lot, pay more to maintain the roads. There is nothing wrong with that and BEV owners will have to pay their share of the costs for keeping the roads in good order. BEV taxes are inevitable; the lack thereoff is simply a form of subsidy which will have to end at some point. In the Netherlands BEV owners will start paying road taxes after next year for example and likely there will be a tax per km as well coming soon.

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It's an anti-EV policy when they exist in such low numbers; it's deliberately designed to reduce their adoption by a state with vested interests in oil continuing to be used for transport. I don't have a problem with EV's being taxed when they're a significant proportion of the vehicle market.

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