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EV-based road transportation is not viable
coppice:
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--- Quote from: coppice on February 24, 2023, 08:32:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 24, 2023, 04:41:19 pm ---Even in my suburban street there is around zero chance that I would be able to park outside my house. Too often I've had to chase around trying to find who is blocking my drive and preventing me from getting out. And this is, by all accounts, a good and desirable neighbourhood.
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There are plenty of suburban UK city areas where people park within a couple of metres of the same spot each day There are also plenty where the last part of any journey home is filled with dread, not always that of what horrors the family has in store for you. One size will never fit all with parking and charging issues.
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I contend that where you can reliably park in one spot on the street, there will usually be sufficient space for off street parking. And that would render the on street charging moot.
Numbers are required; adjectives are useless. Emotive statements are to be deprecated.
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Its quite common for 1930s North London housing to be a compromise between terraced and semi-detached - blocks of 4, with 2 car widths between each block. So, 50% of the houses have their own driveway. The other 50% usually park in the street in a consistent place, because the driveways reduce the pressure on kerb space. Unreliable park is a threshold problem. When the cars per house are below a threshold that the street can accommodate parking can be quite reliable. Go over the threshold and parking rapidly descends into chaos. You see streets where parking has never been a problem, where one house getting an extra car puts the whole street's parking in chaos.
TimFox:
In the city of Chicago, we have a long-standing, controversial, and quite illegal street-parking tradition of "dibs", especially after snowstorms.
By tradition, when one shovels out the street in front of ones house to park there, it is thereafter reserved by placing unfashionable furniture (especially chairs) in the newly-cleared space.
The media like to report on the more artistic placeholders, such as a pair of free-standing frozen bluejeans or a plastic basketball hoop.
The authorities tend to tolerate this in the immediate aftermath of a heavy snowfall, but will make formal announcements about when all that trash will get picked up.
See https://gladstonepark.net/community/dibs/
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: coppice on February 24, 2023, 09:49:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 24, 2023, 08:50:26 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on February 24, 2023, 08:32:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on February 24, 2023, 04:41:19 pm ---Even in my suburban street there is around zero chance that I would be able to park outside my house. Too often I've had to chase around trying to find who is blocking my drive and preventing me from getting out. And this is, by all accounts, a good and desirable neighbourhood.
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There are plenty of suburban UK city areas where people park within a couple of metres of the same spot each day There are also plenty where the last part of any journey home is filled with dread, not always that of what horrors the family has in store for you. One size will never fit all with parking and charging issues.
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I contend that where you can reliably park in one spot on the street, there will usually be sufficient space for off street parking. And that would render the on street charging moot.
Numbers are required; adjectives are useless. Emotive statements are to be deprecated.
--- End quote ---
Its quite common for 1930s North London housing to be a compromise between terraced and semi-detached - blocks of 4, with 2 car widths between each block. So, 50% of the houses have their own driveway. The other 50% usually park in the street in a consistent place, because the driveways reduce the pressure on kerb space. Unreliable park is a threshold problem. When the cars per house are below a threshold that the street can accommodate parking can be quite reliable. Go over the threshold and parking rapidly descends into chaos. You see streets where parking has never been a problem, where one house getting an extra car puts the whole street's parking in chaos.
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Yes, just so. That non-linearity is real and a pain.
I have a 1930 semi, and cars from surrounding roads occasionally infest the road. It is, of course, very difficult to be sure of that since the "residence" associated with any given car is difficult to determine. I once found a car from a neighbouring road partially blocking my drive, and had to insist they !over it pronto.
tggzzz:
--- Quote from: TimFox on February 24, 2023, 10:23:52 pm ---In the city of Chicago, we have a long-standing, controversial, and quite illegal street-parking tradition of "dibs", especially after snowstorms.
By tradition, when one shovels out the street in front of ones house to park there, it is thereafter reserved by placing unfashionable furniture (especially chairs) in the newly-cleared space.
The media like to report on the more artistic placeholders, such as a pair of free-standing frozen bluejeans or a plastic basketball hoop.
The authorities tend to tolerate this in the immediate aftermath of a heavy snowfall, but will make formal announcements about when all that trash will get picked up.
See https://gladstonepark.net/community/dibs/
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I'm going to have to reserve headspace for a woodchipper while a tree is pruned. It won't be easy: I'll have to keep twitching the curtains until I see a space, then rush out and park my car and a wheelie rubbish bin in the space.
Painful enough for 1day/decade; intolerable every day.
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